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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by trbomax, May 21, 2013.

  1. trbomax
    Joined: Apr 19, 2012
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    Long story short,when I reproduced the 28 chev in glass,I did not move the id tag to the new body. Then after several moves in 50 some years the title is mia too and ohio does not have records back to 1968, which was the last year it was plated.I knew I didnt toss the id tag and today while sorting thru one of my dads old tool boxes,this was in the bottom of it. The question is,is this a 1928 chevy national 3 window cpe id tag?
     

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  2. I say using a body tag on anything other than the origial body is asking for a new boyfriend behind bars if you get caught.
     
  3. I believe the body tag is different than the serial number tag. I have both for my '34.
     
  4. oldolds
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    That is a body id tag. I am sure someone will tell you what it is for. What it is not, is a serial number tag. The Job and Body number is usually the same for every car that looked like yours that came out of that plant.
     
  5. Larry T
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    Around here the original title used engine numbers on Chevrolets through 1955.

    That's not saying that most of them aren't titled by body numbers now.
     
  6. trbomax
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    Never thought about the engine #,I still have the original motor back at my old shop.Where were they on a 28 banger?
     
  7. trbomax
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    Well the original body is long gone and since the fg one is an exact clone of it,thats good enough.Nobody is ever going to question it anyway and the question is "is it or is it not a 28 chevy tag", not can I put it on my body.
     
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  8. trbomax
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    I went back and was cleaning the acumulated grime,oil and dirt from the top compartment in the box and this showed up! Not much doubt about it now! So the new question is "is there someone or a place that I can send them to for restoration?"
     

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  9. What's to restore? It looks like an old original tag. Nothing will raise suspicions like a fancy, new tag on the car.
     
  10. trbomax
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    good point. I need to get the fasteners right too. I think the body tag was on the drivers side firewall,low, and the car # tag was on the seat frame,drivers side. They didnt have blind rivets then,maybe just wood screws?
     
  11. 29 Chevy cowl a buddy has the tag is like in the middle up high and riveted.
     
  12. The one in my truck was originally nailed to the wood structure of the floor on the passenger side. Ghost28 is a member here and he can tell you a lot about old Chevys so you may want to pm him.
     
  13. The GM car number was nailed to the passenger side floor or seat frame not screwed.
    The Fisher body build plate was attached to the cowl and showed the body build sequence and other information as described below. Some states will agree to use the body sequence number on the cowl plate , others want to use the GM car number on the floor/seat frame and some will use the engine serial number. I have my 32 Chevy registered in Connecticut with the body build sequence number from the cowl tag. You might want to contact your Local DMV to see what the requirements are in your state. Below is a more detailed description of the various changes relative to the year of build.

    Early Chevrolet cars & trucks used Car Number Plates to identify where the vehicle was made, which month it was made, show the series and the number of the vehicle as it came off the assembly line. Most early wood-bodied models had this plate nailed into the seat frame or the floor on the passenger side. For this reason, they are often missing. The plates changed each year until 1934. Model names "Superior K," "Superior V," "Capitol," "National," "International," "Universal," "Independence," "Confederate" and "Eagle" were used prior to 1934. From mid-1933 thru 1936 "Master" & "Standard" were used. Starting in 1937, the plates had "Master" & "Deluxe Master". From 1933-1938 most trucks used the Master Car Number plate.
    The Car Number or Model Identification Plate shows the factory of manufacture, series designation (i.e.: BA = 1932 passenger cars), the month of manufacture (1932 and later models) and the car number. Using this example number, I will break down the code: 6BA 03 14173.
    In this example the first number or numbers indicates the factory where the vehicle was manufactured. Referring to the table below, the number "6" indicates that the factory where this vehicle was manufactured was Oakland, California.
    The letters "BA" indicate that this was a 1932 series passenger vehicle and the model was called "Confederate". The second table lists the 1925 to 1939 series and model designations that were used on all passenger cars and most trucks:
    Plants of Manufacture

    1. Flint, Michigan
    2. Tarrytown, New York
    3. St. Louis, Missouri
    4. Kansas City, Missouri
    5. Oakland, California
    6. Atlanta, Georgia
    7. Norwood, Ohio
    8. Buffalo, New York
    9. Baltimore, Maryland
    10. Van Nuys, California
    11. Janesville, Wisconsin
    <table> <tbody><tr> <th>YEAR</th> <th>SERIES</th> <th>MODEL</th> </tr> </tbody><tbody> <tr> <td>1925</td> <td>V</td> <td>Superior</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1926</td> <td>K</td> <td>Superior</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1927</td> <td>AA</td> <td>Capitol</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1928</td> <td>AB</td> <td>National</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1929</td> <td>AC</td> <td>International</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1930</td> <td>AD</td> <td>Universal</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1931</td> <td>AE</td> <td>Independence</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1932</td> <td>BA</td> <td>Confederate</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1933</td> <td>CA</td> <td>Eagle</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1933-36</td> <td>Car & Truck</td> <td>Master</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1933-36</td> <td>Std Car</td> <td>Standard</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1937-39</td> <td>Car & Truck</td> <td>Master</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1937-39</td> <td>Deluxe Car</td> <td>Deluxe Master</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> The numbers "03" indicates the month that the vehicle was manufactured - March of 1932. If the number was "11", that would indicate that the vehicle was manufactured in November of 1931. This part of the serial number was not used until the 1932 production (model year), therefore, 1931 and earlier models will not have these two numbers.
    The number "14173" (model series unit number) indicates that this is the 13,173rd vehicle to come off the Oakland assembly line in 1932. (Note that the numbering started at 1,001).
    In 1932, there were two different Car Number Plates used. All 1932 models had a 2-digit month of manufacture added to the number. Early production vehicles used "Car Number" on the plate, just like the 1931 models. Later production models used a new plate that had a longer field for the number. In order to make room for the longer number, the words "Car Number" were shortened to "Car No". From 1932 and later "Car No." was used.

    Example Plates

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    The Fisher body tag that is mounted on the cowl
    Contains the Job Number, Body Number, Trim Number and Paint Number.)
    Note: GM of Canada included the car serial number on this tag. US Cars did not.
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  14. trbomax
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    OK. So the number 1AB 11C32 means flint,national(28) 11 is november. But what is C32 then?
     
  15. I'll have to research the "C" I haven't seen that before.The ones I've seen were attached to the seat frame and contained all numbers.
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  16. I ran the picture of your tag by the guys at VCCA and the consensus is that the "C" is an incorrectly stamped zero.
     
  17. trbomax
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    After studying it from that perspective, I would agree. So then its a nov car,maybe actually made in 27 if the "032" means its the 32nd car built?
     

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