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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ChrisBorsheim, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. ChrisBorsheim
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    Hey all,

    I need some help putting a rough value on an A I'm looking into. I have limited information right now, so ball park is really all I'm after.
    What I know:
    '30 Coupe
    Duece frame
    Ford 347 & T5 transmission
    Chevy 10bolt rear end

    Pictures of it are attached.

    I know I know, very little information and even less from the photos - really just looking for a ballpark.
     

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  2. Hdonlybob
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    Can't help on price, but one cool find ... Love it :)
     
  3. scrap metal 48
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    OK, I'll go first.. $6,000-$9,000...
     
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  4. Well its a neat looking car but if that's the pics the guy is using he aint very proud of it. It looks like its been rode hard and put up wet. Anyway those are my thought on it.

    value, well it depends on how well its put together but for an idea you can pick up older restos for less that 10K.
     
  5. mike bowling
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    I like it---Break it down to components and try to put an average value on each. Body looks pretty solid. Deuce frame is worth some dough. Motor is a punched out 302,real nice motor, but how many miles ago, and by who? Receipts? 5 speed is a keeper, but again, rebuilt, freshened up, receipts? 10 bolt posi is good stuff too. First impression looking at the car, and the list of what's in it, sounds like someone did a good job on it. I'd bet it's a nice cruising rig on the road. BUT, you need to drive it and climb around under it and maybe even have a third party ( who's not all excited about buying it) take a look at it. Ball park? 10-15K based on not much info ( and the fact that I'm in the Northeast, and bodies are hard to find in decent shape). I like real simple, well built, no frills hot rods, and this one looks pretty darn good. Good luck with it ( and my apologies to the seller if I low-balled his price- it's worth as much as someone will pay for it- good luck to him also).
     
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  6. alchemy
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    I can see the booger welds on the patch panels from clear over here. I wouldn't say that body is cherry. And it's been channelled. Who does that when they put an A on a '32 frame?

    I'd say it's worth 6 or 7 thousand without more details.
     
  7. pdunn10
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    bottom of body has been patched all the way around without seeing the inside of the body not sure how well done it is.
    my thought was 7500-10000 depending on quality of work to channel and what the frame looks like. It looks solid from here.
     
  8. ChrisBorsheim
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    Hmm, doesn't look channeled to me, but I'm no expert. Maybe just narrowed?
     
  9. wicarnut
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    IMO, if you can get in it, drive down the road, basics OK, drives straight, stops, steers good, etc, got to worth 6/8 K, have it checked out by a reputable shop, someone w/ experience in hot rod world, remember, most rods are going to need some lovin, there are some deals out there, but as always its a buyer beware world.
     
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  10. ChrisBorsheim
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    I'd like to see where these 6/8k deals are at. I watch the cl***ifieds here and never find anything similar to this for that price. Everything's in the high 10's, low 20's.
     
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  11. Its not channeled a ton but it is below the top of the frame rail. you can still see the reveal on the frame rail if you look close. It is not setup like a basic A on deuce rails highboy.
     
  12. O,K, I had to look up what a 347 ci Ford motor was. (call me Stupid) Those are pretty hot motors. 450 + Hp. A long block price range is 4K - 8K depending on where you you buy it. Then you get to finish dressing it and then add the 4 speed stuff. That tells me it's a 10K and up hot rod.
    The Wizzard
     
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  13. Hitchhiker
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    but do they sell?
     
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  14. alchemy
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    Well, believe me or don't. You asked for our opinions and I gave mine. Go buy it and love it, for whatever price you feel comfortable with.
     
  15. ChrisBorsheim
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    There's no sarcasm there, honestly asking so I can take advantage haha
     
  16. wicarnut
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    In My Opinion, looking at pics, car looks a little rough/unfinished, none of the $$$ stuff is there, wheels, body work, paint, interior, shiney stuff. Model A's are kool, but reasonable in this time frame and If this car trips your trigger, buy it, enjoy it, that's what this car deal is all about, I do not think the $$$ is the only factor involved in these cars, again IMO, sadley have had friends , widows deal w/ unfinished cars/ projects and they do not bring much money. Always remember, opinions are like azzholes, everyone has one. LOL
     
  17. Squablow
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    If that were for sale around here, ***uming it drives under it's own power, it would either be perpetually on Craigslist for 18K or it'd go up for sale for $12K and sell for that or close to it in a week.

    And I agree with the OP on prices, I very rarely see driveable open wheeled rods for sale (at least in my area) for under 10K that don't need literally everything changed on them to make them decent. $6-$8K around here gets you a decent rolling project that still needs 100+ hours of skilled labor to complete or a stetchy home built T-bucket maybe.

    With the right paint, wheels, and detailing, (***uming what is there was done nicely) this could be a really nice coupe. Based only on what I can see, if you could drive it home for $12K or less, I think it'd be a worthwhile deal.
     
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  19. oldolds
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    If it is an original 32 Ford frame, not a new one, there are guys on here that claim them to be worth in excess of $3000, if not hacked up too much. Someone else said the motor was worth $4000 ish if fresh. 32 grille + shell, if Ford another $500? which 4 speed? cheapest $200 with used shifter, best $500 with no shifter? Rough buildable body, $1000- $2000. You have $8000+ in parts. Not counting wheels, tires, and axles.
    I am sure others will disagree with my pricing, and I don't exactly believe those numbers, but that is what people are telling me what stuff is worth these days.
     
  20. ChrisBorsheim
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    I appreciate everyone's input. Sellers asking 14.
     
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  21. 56don
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    If you were selling it, would you think it was worth 14?
    If so, then thats what the value is to you. If you would be satisfied with that and not second guess yourself for a year, then go with it.
     
  22. banjorear
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    I'd walk at $14K. I'm ***uming there is some hacking done to that frame just by looking at those front shock mounts and the stuff attached to the rear and the back of the frame rail before the rear wheel.

    That body is definitely channeled as P&B'er said. Not much, maybe 2", but the body should sit on top of the frame. This one does not. Check the floor and subrails carefully.
     
  23. orangeamcs
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    14k. What will it take to make it what you want? Probably at least 10k. So for 25k you can by a really nice car or a nice car and a project. Just my two sense.
     
  24. mr.chevrolet
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    I would pay 12Gs for that if I was looking. but then I'd put a SBC in it.
     
  25. ChrisBorsheim
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    Yeah 11-12 is where I think the value lies too.
     
  26. mike bowling
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    You can ask a price all day long- don't mean squat. Go wave 12 in cashola at him, and if it runs and drives OK have some fun- It's a freakin' HOT ROD- it ain't going to the LA roadster show ( not this year anyway). I don't get the mentality of people who go nuts building a "high end" car, then won't drive the GD thing ( and if they do, they spend a day with their Car Care Products Bucket detailing the f'in undercarriage afterwards-quality time with the wife??). I don't like the tunnel ram base with a single 4 bbl ( and the air cleaner should go to a swap meet). Change those , and get some chrome rims and narrower tires and that would be a sharp looking car.( even with the dirt,....... I mean patina).
     
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  27. oldolds
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    If you have easy access to $10k cash, show him what it looks like. It's a big pile if $100 bills, even more impressive if you mix in some smaller bills! :rolleyes:
     
  28. Just my $.02
    Looks vey cool
    It's a beater Hot Rod.
    The mud slinging adds to the charm.
    Sort of proves it's a real driver.
    Nobody channels an A over a deuce frame today,
    so maybe it has "50's build roots.
    Over half the A's on the planet have poorly put in
    patch panels, a lot were gas welded, and it's abeater so what!
    You probably wouldn't build one like it today.
    Gotta be good for 100 MPH.
    Gotta be worth $10,-$12,000
     
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  29. ChrisBorsheim
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    Got more photos. Seller confirmed its been channeled at least an inch over the frame. Light switch is apparently for the lights...
     

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  30. So you play a little.
    Easy to change wheels and tires.
    Headders are not my cup of tea.
    The carb and manifold again easy to change.
    32 grill is cool.
    It's got 3 pedals and you can drive it tomorrow!
    You would be surprised what a little rubber rake
    and some bigs and littles can do for a car!
    Check out the one I just bought. 00u0u_5KKPom4DR9L_600x450.jpg
     
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