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Technical Hemi year size ID help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Barn Hunter, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. Barn Hunter
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    Just found this yesterday and was wondering if anyone knows the year truck and what size the hemi might be. It is available. Also wondering what's a good offer as you see it. Thanks dodge.jpg hemi1.jpg hemi2.jpg
     
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  3. Hnstray
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    Looks like a pickup......probably a 241....could be a 270....just behind the water pump, on the top front edge of the block, will be a series of letters and numbers. The first few in that group will identify what it is. Post those and one among us can decipher for you, or, you can look it up in a number on places.
     
  4. Barn Hunter
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    It is a Dodge, but a bigger truck, not a pickup. It might be a while before I can get out there to check the numbers. Just wondering what year it might be. The chart would probably give the size. If this is a decent start, what would be a good offer?
     
  5. Hnstray
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    It's at least a '54.....could be a '55 or maybe even a '56, definitely not a '57.

    Larger Dodge trucks got Dodge 315 's in '56......the biggest engines were commonly Chrysler based 331" at first and later 354".

    Nonetheless, I will stand by the opinion of 241 or 270 as the most likely. Get the code from it to be certain.

    Value? In my opinion, it would depend a lot on whether it is 'stuck' or will turn over. The cylinder heads may the most useable/valuable parts there. $100 to $300 would be the range that comes to my mind. Getting it out of the truck appears to be a challenge in itself.
     
  6. Bad Eye Bill
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    Probably a '54, it might be an early '55, definitely not a '56. Early '55's had windshield post's like this one, late '55's had wrap around windshields like the '56 to '60 trucks. Bigger trucks kept that design even longer.
     
  7. If it's in a junkyard and it isn't bent in half it's there because of mechanical issues!

    Could be anything as simple as a carburetor or as serious as a blown motor.... see if it turns and if it does the problem area could be the trans!

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  8. 73RR
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    Are you wanting just the engine or the whole truck?
    Yes, a Dodge engine. Valve cover is Dodge only. ID codes are on my web site.
    Value? 2¢ a pound by the looks of the pictures.... I would not expect it to actually turn over and I would not put much effort into trying. A stuck piston is a powerful thing.:cool:
    Truck engines are OK for street use but do have some oddities. Start with identifying what it is before deciding how much to offer unless you need a 'decorator' piece for your garage.

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  9. Barn Hunter
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    The truck is trashed. I think I need to find a better one. I would imagine that rain going down the spark plug tubes year after year would kinda mess things up eventually.
     
  10. I'm sure the motor is set up tight, too. Maybe $500 in scrap there, if the cab corners, floors and rockers are good you could probably cut them out and sell them - no repop market for these. You'd get most of your investment back and it wouldn't take much away from the scrap weight.
     
  11. 4tford
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    Water crossover to the heads Chrysler 354?
     
  12. 41hemi
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    Looking at the engine pics in my opinion it's a Dodge rather than Chrysler block. Check out the valve covers. Nice and flat on the top. Chrysler would have a little "dip' in them at the upper end even if they were no name covers. I would want the engine only and as said it's probably locked up from those exposed years. Those Dodges had crank cracking issues also so I'd at the most offer scrap weight price. Just my opinion.....
     
  13. Hnstray
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    Dodge engines from inception in '53 used water crossover pump housing. That appears to me to be the truck 'raised water pump' casting. I have one like that. The pump rides 2 to 3 inches higher than passenger pump housings.
     
  14. George
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    As long as the plugs are in....

    Yeah, the Chr truck hemi has solid front heads.
     
  15. sunbeam
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    Truck motor would have a crank damper cuts down on crank brakeage.
     

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