Hot Rods Here we go again...The July BANGER MEET!!!

If that's the one that just went off its a repro aluminum head,....The only aluminum heads were the Super Winfields,...or at least that's what I've found via some info via the FAST group I belong to??

 

I stand corrected I have had 2 of these repop heads and neither one had the compression stamped on it. I went out to the shop to double check and lo and behold it is a repop. The location of the pad on the cast Iron Winfield is centered between 1 and 2 plugs. When i went back to the head in question I could just barely make out the logo.

 

hey did the Model B distributors use an "A" style cap,...or an auto-lite or mallory kind of cap??

 

Not sure whether I like them either, Clark. I know it would compromise flow slightly, but do you think it'd look any better if the manifold was sweeping up from the block to the carbs, so that the carbs are higher up? Be a bugger to make though.
Also wondering whether a slightly later model SU (not the HIF's though), those that sit at an angle, would look better?
These already look close to your bonnet-line, less any ram pipes or filters.

Thing is, I bet that they will perform really well.....why not just try them out anyway?

 

If they don't work out Clark I could be interested in one of them ( I think one will be plenty for me!) - and Mark might like the other...

 

Well I got an update from the Holiday camp Pontins AKA were the Rockabilly Rave is held.

The CCTV cams do not stay on the main hotrod parking area - so someone must of hit the truck while the camera was focused on another area of the camp - so there is no way to get the B$£$£"$$£"$"£$ who bashed into my pickup.

I am not sure I would take it again.

 

"A" style http://www.rennerscorner.com/page2.html Is a source of parts for "B" distributors A B garage http://idisk.mac.com/forever4/Public/index.htm#electrical The A B ford garage is a source for info regarding A's and B's

 

My anglia is on twin SU's, but then thats a UK car anyway.


Depends how you look at it, if people in the late 50's were putting twin SU's on british fords then why wouldnt someone in the england in the 50's fit twin SU's to their american ford?

They look too clean too, once they have 'settled' a bit they'll fit in better i think.

Would look nice angled up, are different SU's mounted at different angles?

 

Like this?



The swan neck manifold that you describe is properly the worst performing manifold known to man!

There not close to the bonnet there totally outside the engine bay! With ram pipes they are going to be a safety concern for pedestrians!
Unfortunately this is an unnecessary evil with side drafts on my engine because I have to space the carbs a long way from the engine, 6" in this case, to gain clearance from the exhaust manifold for linkages, fuel lines and the carbs themselves.

Its not really a case of bolt on 'em and go either as it seems the linkage is going to be quite complicated.

I'm sure we can come to some arrangement... It would be a shame to split them as they are a matched pair.

Yours look alot better because they sit tight to the engine something thats not possible on mine.

 

No, I don't think that's what I mean though I can't see much of the intake in that snap. Unless you're being pedantic and referring to the exhaust header there.....

What I was getting at was a manifold similar to what you have made here but with a slight sweep upwards from the block, just a single curve, so that the fuel flows into the port in a similar fashion to how it does with your current intake (with the 97s on it). Though, as I mentioned, that would probably work better (visually) with a later, angled SU.
As for the linkage being a problem, well, at worst, remove the A gas pedal assembly and temporarily install a cable and suitable pedal. Be worth it to get them working.
The real pain in the arse with SU's is sorting the best needles from the dozens available, not the installation, unless someone else is doing the needle-work for you.

 

Clark,

You probably knew you wouldn't like them though didn't you?! You've gone this far, may as well go a little further.


Simon,

Don't let it put you off using the Pickup, chances of the same fuckwit running into you is a million to one shot, you can't let the actions of one idiot stop you enjoying the car, it'd be a damn shame not to see it at the Rave.

 

Hey guys i have a 29 Roadster on 32 rails org. The motor is a 34 "C" with a Miller Schoefield OHV. 2-81's, a FS Ignitions distributor,inserted rods and mains. All machine work done by Ron Kelley. It has a 200R4 trans,out back rod shop quick change.
Health problems and finding out at 62 years old that i am not a roadster driver. I will keep my 40 Ford Coupe(24years). The car has a early 50's look. The motor has only about 600 miles on and the rebuild of the car.
I look forward each month to the banger news. Email me for more info and price.
Thank you 40BCOOL

 

I understand where your both coming from with the SU's, but there dead in the water for me now.

I've already got the ball rolling in another direction so we'll see how that works out.

 

Hey all...

So much good banger stuff happening, I can't believe how many of us there are now...


I'm about to jump into my banger project again... So I'm wondering who is really digging their flywheel/ clutch set ups? This is my next task at hand. I'm running a 34 box with 39 gears.

I'm not sure if I'm gonna take 26 pounds out of my A flwheel, and run an A clutch. Or run the v8 flywheel and setup, thus modifying a V8 starter.

Was even thinking bout running an aluminum flywheel? Sac Vintage Ford voted against it, haven't had a chance talk to my other buddies yet...

Is this guy a Hamber, Just Plain Bill maybe? This is an awesome tech... You can save alot of weight this way.
http://rides.webshots.com/album/558786345HiXnZi


Who loves their set up?

 

Yup, that's Bill, I reckon.

 

I have heard of a gent building a supercharged banger to run at Bonneville this year. I have seen a pic from a Speed Meet that was posted here - it was a yellow engine on a stand.
Does anyone know of this guy or anything about the engine?
Thanks in advance

 

Not this one?

 

Hey, Is anyone running an OHV banger? I'm starting to check into the various ones available and would like your input. Thanks, Stump

 

This one?

Photos stolen from Scootermcrad.





I believe its Steve Serr's. He is the one who produces the Miller Hi-Speed heads.
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/

 

Fuel Injection?

I love this I know it's not a 'period' 4 banger, but it is still a Ford 4 banger- check out picture 180 and 182! http://www.mat.fi/n_index.php?nav=gallery_view&gallery=project1929fordmodel-a.xml&g=13

 

Thought I would post a video of our flathead banger running at El mirage last month.

Keven


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Anywhere to go for more info on the blown banger?

 

I heard it run on the stand at the Antique Nats. Sounded real good. But, if I'm not mistaking I believe it is EFI which can't be run at Bonneville/Elmo in a vintage class.

Keven

 

In the pictures above it appears to be running mechanical fuel injection. But going by the lack of dizzy and the trigger wheel on the back of the crank pully, I would say its got an ecu controlled electronic ignition.

I'm guessing that type of ignition system would also be banned from the Vintage classes?

 

Ive seen period home made mechanical injection on early 50's british bikes.

 

SCTA allows electronic ignition in vintage classes, they just don't allow EFI.

Keven

 

Thats the one!
Very interesting motor.
I would be interested to find out much more about this
Has anyone played around with bore/stroke and rod ratios?

We are building a blown flathead banger too but making a girdle and 5 main crank

 

Low52:Can you tell me more about those headers. I cant stop drooling over your roadster.

 

When the Flathead banger class came to be, the agreement was No 5 main bearing girdles, No turbochargers, no EFI, and distributer type ignitions only. At Bonneville last year I noticed the Creel-Stewart lakester was turbocharged. Mike told me that since it was a special construction vehicle the turbo rule didn't count. I kind of guess most of the Gentelmans agreement has gone by the wayside. Except those that the poweres that be don't feel like doing right now.

 

This is Steve Serr's engine. It has a 5 main crank and girdle with dry sump oiling. It is de stroked so that it is @185 c.i.. It does have EFI and he has plans to run it on gas and alcohol. He is using one of his heads. I don't think he has plans on running it in the vintage class, but I could be wrong. He will be running it in a roadster. His goal is to get @250 hp

Oh ya, crank trigger ignition too.