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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 31Vicky with a hemi, May 28, 2018.

  1. Engine man
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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    from Wisconsin

    The people with those 10 amp chargers that think they can charge a dead battery that's rated at 600 cold cranking amps in 30 minutes. If it's an 80 amp hour battery, it will take 8 hours to charge at 10 amps/hour.
     
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  2. F-ONE
    Joined: Mar 27, 2008
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    I do believe that's called a dead cell. The battery will show charged. It will seem to take a charge. Put a load on it and it goes Kaput!
     
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  3. Yep, and go to flatline dead zero zip nadda like no battery is even present in the system is a new one me.
     
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  4. BJR
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    :rolleyes:You are kidding us aren't you? Next are you going to tell us that if you tie a knot in a wire it won't let the electricity through?:rolleyes:
     
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  5. Hnstray
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    Depends on how tight the knot is. My Grand Dad used to time his his engines that way...if the timing was too advanced, he put a loose knot in the coil wire...if it was too slow, he'd cut some off and make it shorter. Honest! ;)

    Ray
     
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  6. Atwater Mike
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    Certainly tying a knot in a wire will drastically interrupt voltage. Stretch the wire and measure it.
    Now, tie 2 knots and measure it. Not as long, huhh. See? A 'SHORT'!
     
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  7. gdaddy
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    thanks for reporting , helps the rest of us .
     
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  8. Atwater Mike
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    Seriously" Probe the cells of the battery for voltage, 2 volts each...Interesting to see where the dead cell is. IF it's on an end one, (pos. or neg.) it can be drilled into thru the top of the case...then, screw a stud (3/8", wood type thread on bottom, U.S.S. on the top) into the case. Presto! Instant 10 volts! But don't do it, he won't pay you.

    Did this for a customer one dark night, '55 Chev 210, fordor, his family was with him...He was 'stuck', and broke. This fix did the trick, Got him home. "Sure thing battery sale the next day" never materialized, he drove that 10 volt Chevy for 2 years+!
     
  9. That is some funny **** right there!
    Some days I wish I had that creative sense of humor,
    But alas, I got stuck with just being an incentive ***** most days. Well I think it's the other people who get stuck with me being an insensitive ***** because it doesn't bother me much at all.
     
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  10. prewarcars4me
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    My grandmother when going on vacation, not only would turn off all her lamps and unplug them (as well as anything plugged into an outlet) but would actually SHAKE THE CORDS to make sure she got all of the electricity out of them :rolleyes:
     
  11. F-ONE
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    from Alabama

    No joke.
    I was a career fire officer at two departments until a small portion of my intelegence ran out my left ear.
    A sharp kink, tight knot or pinch under pressure on a wire causes a lot of resistance. This causes heat and can eventually cause a fire.
    Both of the following were of course AC but you will get the picture.
    Apartment Fire...
    This one was caused by a refridgerator plugged into an orange extension cord.
    The point of origin was where one foot or peg of the refridgerator had the cord kinked and pinched against the floor.
    Garage Fire
    This one was caused by an extension cord wound in a fairly tight loop hanging on the wall. Something was plugged into it maybe a fan or a light anyway it was a constant draw.
    We got there pretty quick on that one. It just blackened the wall and burned up the cord to a crisp.

    Through those years I ran a mucho grande amount of car fires. At least 50 percent were electrical in origin. For some reason F Series powerstrokes were bad about electrical fires.

    One of the scariest was at 3 AM. A little two year old straight shift import caught fire overnight in the drive way. As we were fighting that one the starter tripped and there it went up the drive blazing like hell until it was stopped by a retaining wall.
    What made it so scary... ?
    Those folks always parked that car in their ba*****t garage under the bedrooms. For some reason, that night they parked it outside. It could have been bad, real real bad.

    There is a lot of merit in making sure wires are not pinched, caught between panels, punctured by screws or mashed by seat frames or brackets. Just attention to detail and good workmanship that's something you do well.
    Hopefully this one is not a nightmare of previous poor work.

    On a lighter note...
    We ran a car fire about a mile from the crossing along the old L&N. A CSX train called it in. It was in the middle of nowhere. New car... burned to a crisp.
    The deputy told he he knew what caused the fire.
    He said it started right here under the dash right at the glove box... friction.
    Friction I said... How do you reckon?
    He said.... The payment book rubbing against the insurance policy.o_O
     
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  12. BJR
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    "He said it started right here under the dash right at the glove box... friction.
    Friction I said... How do you reckon?
    He said.... The payment book rubbing against the insurance policy"

    Now that's funny I don't care who you are! :p:p:p
     
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  13. pat59
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    Not only funny, but a lot of truth in that statement.
     
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  14. Engine man
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    Did the battery solve all of the problems?
     
  15. I believe so, it's p***ed all of the stuff I can throw at.
    No parasitic draw, charging system works fine, all power acc and wiring works fine. P***ed my road test and retest. Everything is as it should be.

    some daily operations by the new owner might flush out more problems or not. I told him not to leave without his phone and explicitly said do not trust it until some history develops.
     
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  16. ClayMart
    Joined: Oct 26, 2007
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    "I cut it off three times and it's still too short!"
    o_O
     
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