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Technical High idle with air cleaner on.

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Ny51streamliner, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Ny51streamliner
    Joined: May 15, 2014
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    Ny51streamliner

    I have a 51 pontiac with its original straight eight engine and carb. I have a issue I never came across before. After warmed up, she idles high. If I take the air cleaner off, the idle comes down. It will then go back up if I put the cleaner back on. Thanks for any suggestions.

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  2. Ny51streamliner
    Joined: May 15, 2014
    Posts: 30

    Ny51streamliner

    Yes. I tried a aftermarket one as well and it does the same thing

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  3. Boneyard51
    Joined: Dec 10, 2017
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    If you have no linkage binding , I would check for vacuum leaks.

    Bones
     
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  4. hmmmmmmm
    no linkage interference issues?
     
  5. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    Sounds like the air cleaners are too restrictive, causing the carb to pull more gas through it.
     
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  6. Ny51streamliner
    Joined: May 15, 2014
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    Ny51streamliner

    Starting to check now

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  7. Chiss
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    Chiss
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    from S.C.

  8. 54vicky
    Joined: Dec 13, 2011
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    viscosity is not even a consideration if you know how the oil bath works.I think minor vacuum leak crack in line or plugs used to plug excess vacuum ports.I say minor if big you would notice higher rpm even with breather on.also I think you would hear hissing sound from leak.pretty hard to have a restrictive oil bath unless oil over filled even then it would just choke engine for air and lots of black smoke.with a tac you could check rpm gain I suspect if no leaks then the sound of air rushing into carb makes you think it is speeding up a tac would show
     
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  9. Ny51streamliner
    Joined: May 15, 2014
    Posts: 30

    Ny51streamliner

    I was going to ask how viscosity would affect it. I did a fast check for vacuum leaks with carb cleaner but did not find any. I know for sure even without the tach that the idle is going up when the air cleaner is put on cause the rise in idle is to big.

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  10. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    I recall a Pontiac (O.T., later model) that our boss, Cliff, sent over to "Big Bill" to be smogged...(Calif. thing)
    Big Bill called back and said it had leaky vacuum hoses...Cliff told him to just go ahead and replace 'em. The car got delivered to us around 2:00 P.M., but was smoking to beat the band! Real smokescreen...
    Cliff put it on the big 2 post hoist, (for doing ****** changes) and I looked it over...
    Big Bill had the vacuum line for the transmission modulator connected to the automatic transmission breather tube!
    Our American Indian mechanic joked: "Mmmm! Big Bill make-um heap big smoke!"
     
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