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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by indybigjohn, Aug 28, 2008.

  1. Racewriter
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    It is. In 1971, a wealthy guy named Chris Vallo (the quarterpanel says CV Enterprises) financed an effort of Pontiac GTO's in NASCAR. David Pearson was the driver, and Ray Nichels was the owner. It didn't work out well. The Talladega race shown was the first race, and it lasted 19 laps after qualifying 8th. Pearson and Nichels ran the car four more times, all DNF'ing due to the engine. Vallo basically disappeared from the scene after the '71 season. He had spent a bunch of money financing Nichels in USAC and NASCAR (most of the cars were Plymouths), and apparently, the money was from shady sources.

    MPC made a kit of the Pontiac with a clear body.
     
  2. bigmike312
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    Another shot of the Pontiac

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    Tiny Lund

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    Smokey's

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    Big Mike
     
  3. monsterflake
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    thanks you guys, i always say that i lost interest in nascar when the cars lost the chrome bumpers, but in this case i'll make an exception! i was originally guessing a 71 gto, but since i have seen earlier lemans based cars, i thought that this was a (painted bumper) lemans or tempest.

    more please! :)
     
  4. indybigjohn
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    Terry Bivens. He ran with us in ASA off and on, and did some NASCAR.

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  5. Racewriter
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    John - Terry is now running Modifieds at Lakeside Speedway on a weekly basis. Should have been the '76 Rookie of the Year in NASCAR, but got screwed. Billy Hagan threatened to take his team to USAC if his driver, Skip Manning, didn't win the award. Terry had no sponsor (and thus might not be back anyway), Skip did, so Skip won the award. Terry outpointed and outperformed him despite having to ride-hop to do it.
     
  6. B.A.KING
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    i knew about pearson and the pontiac,but i wasn't sure because the #17 ford/merc is those shots also. who was in it. didn't b.allison drive
    it for a while?
     
  7. Racewriter
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    Look closer. The Merc in those shots is the #90 Donlavey car, probably driven by Bill Dennis at that time.

    Here's what happened with the Allison/Pearson deal:

    Pearson started 1971 driving for Holman/Moody and Allison was driving his own Dodges. Nichels, meanwhile, was running the #99 Plymouth for Fred Lorenzen, and was running Plymouths in USAC financed by Vallo for Bobby Unser and others.

    Early in 1971, the Pearson/Holman/Moody deal was coming unstrung, while Allison was draining his wallet running the Mopars. Pearson quit the H/M Ride at the Darlington Spring race. After the race, the story goes that Ralph Moody saw Bobby walking through the pits and said, "See you next week." Bobby said, "No, you won't, I'm done," and the Moody/Allison partnership was quickly formed. Bobby, in the Moody Mercury renumbered 12 and painted with the Coke colors, became the dominant superspeedway car of the season.

    Meanwhile, David Pearson reunited with Ray Nichels, who had the Pontiac project in his back pocket. The Talladega shot above was their first time together. Pearson drove 5 races in the Pumpjack and two more in Nichels Plymouth, using numbers 17 and 33.

    After Vallo left, Nichels would only enter two more NASCAR races, although he and his son Terry were active in USAC for a few more years.

    At the end of the 1971 season, H/M basically shut down, entering only the 1973 Riverside 500 before quitting entirely.

    Bobby Allison then went to Junior Johnson for the 1972 season, then to his own Chevys in 1973.

    NASCAR could get kinda convoluted in those days, huh?
     
  8. roger c
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    from Kent WA

    Here's some photos of my car. It's a stock car, but it turned left AND right in the Mexican Road Race in 1954. It was driven by Walt Faulkner and prepared by Bill Stroppe and Clay Smith.
     
  9. john56h
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    Supposedly was entered in a single Nascar race, but failed to complete even the first lap, due to a broken rear axle on lap one.
     
  10. Hope it hasn't already been posted, but Darrell Waltrip and P.B. Crowell mixing it up.
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  11. Sir Woosh
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    LOVE THE PICS! I started sneaking into the dirt track races near my home when tri-5 Chevy's were too new to race yet. Nothing but 6 and 8 cyl. jalopies. The 55-57 Chevy crowd came along in the early 60's as late models and green cars were still turned away from the track as bad luck. One guy brought in a late 50's Chrysler with a hemi. Wouldn't corner, but everyone looked tied to a stump on the 900 foot straightaways. They took all the stockers to the near by 1/4 mile strip and no one touched the hemi! Some of the guys raced with a hole cut in their face shields so they could still smoke a cigar. Great times for sure. Even the Pharoahs Merc coupe was found in a dirt track parking lot as a daily driver. Do we even want to talk about the cars I've seen go out in a blaze of glory during the demolition derby's?
     
  12. indybigjohn
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    Racewriter, I'm not surprised to hear that story about Terry not getting the ROY award. They did it almost exclusively by committee in those days, and it was hard for anybody but a good ol' boy to get it.
     
  13. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    Here's another one of my childhood hero's. Sam Ard and the the 00 car was a big thing in the late '70's and early '80's. Sam was a SUPER nice guy to me as a kid around the racetracks of the south. He would always take time to stop and talk to me. It's a shame that he now has Alzheimer's and barely even remembers that he ever raced. The last time I saw him though, he knew who I was immediately. His wife was shocked.

    Later,
    Kevin
     
  14. B.A.KING
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    post 598, 2nd pic down, may not be same track,but looks like it to me. thats where the 17 talladege ford i saw came from. again may not be the same track.
     
  15. B.A.KING
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    do you know if thats highland rim,or owensboro ky? love those old late models. look how clean that front cap is on the 64.and vinyl top to boot
     
  16. That pic is from Ellis Speedway at Reed, KY, outside Owensboro around 1968 when Darrell Waltrip was driving for Pedley's Garage.

    Here's another from Ellis Speedway around 1967 when the Pedley's No. 100 was a '56 Chevy, running in 3rd place with P.B. Crowell leading in the #47 of his two car team.
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    And from the winner's circle at Ellis in 1969 when DW was 22 years old.
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  17. bigmike312
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    Some pictures I took at Nashville

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  18. bigmike312
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    Daytona

    Dick Brooks

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    Ramo Stott

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    Red Farmer

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    Big Mike
     
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    Herschell McGriff

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    L. D. Ottinger

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    Darrell Waltrip

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  20. Racewriter
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    Gotcha, sorry. Same track, different year. The Pontiac pic was from 1971; the 17 pic was from 1970. 1970 was the last year NASCAR allowed the Daytonas and Talladegas to compete, other than Dick Brooks trying the 1971 Daytona 500 with a 305 smallblock.
     
  21. indybigjohn
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    bigmike312...would the 25 be Charlie Binkley?
     
  22. B.A.KING
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    that what i was thinking,2 l.d.ottinger 711 marty robbins/coo coo marlin,maybe for some reason my edits aint workin rite.
     
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  23. bigmike312
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    #25 and #125 are both Charlie Binkley

    #711 Coo Coo...Marty ran #777

    #2 L. D. Ottinger

    #55 Tiny Lund

    Don't remember who drove the #0

    Big Mike
     
  24. Butterknife
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    The classiest looking stock car, ever.
     
  25. Thanks for the edit, Big Mike. After DW competed with P.B. Crowell he then drove for him. Interesting to see how he later adopted the Crowell number and color scheme for his Terminal Transport sponsored NASCAR ride.
     
  26. B.A.KING
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    i just don't know if i would have the word TERMINAL on my racy type car:D.i think dw's father in law owned that buss. love to see some pics of f-97 red farmer and bobby / donnie allison. keep um coming folks
     
  27. k9racer
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    this photo was taken at Highland rin. Check the wall high off 4 to the straight and the lower wall in 3 and 4. I was told by PB crew cheif the reason for the vynal top on pb car was it was a burn recovery and easer to patch with a vynal top these were almost new cars at this time.. As for the numbers on Charley Brinkleys car. Charleys hero was Frank Reed who got killed on the old horse track at nashville. The track retired the no 25 so charley can 125 on his hobby car and then later his late model. After much lobbying Mr Donnahue relesed the no to charle at the end of the year so he could run the big race as 25.
     
  28. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    Here's some pics of Donnie Allison.
     
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