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History History (and Build) of Just Steve's 1932 Ford Three Window

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Roadsir, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. kidcampbell71
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    In my next life ... I'll shoot for one of your oil stains. That's a stellar garage view. You are all over it. Deservedly so.
     
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  2. Dick Stevens
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    Nothing has changed! :rolleyes:
     
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  3. T Hudson
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    That '40 is a beast ;). Went for a ride in it after the car show today :eek::D, holy $h!t, awesome.
     
  4. Roadsir
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    New thread starting soon on this car.
     
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  5. Nice score!
     
  6. 40 & 61 Fords
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    I didn't realize you sold the OTHER 40 coupe you had not to long ago. Love the new one!
     
  7. 383deuce
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    DAM nice stable mate for the 3 winder.....Love them 40's
     
  8. 40 & 61 Fords
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    It was nice to see it in person finally at the messaround. I talked with Steve about it several times, but never saw it, other than in the magazine. Are you thinking of finishing it completely, or just leaving it with the "as found" look?
     
  9. Roadsir
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    I get the leave it as is comment a lot, but I could see getting the front fenders into black primer, maybe in a few years think about paint. Dark Maroon is on my mind, or black.
    Wish we would have found some time to talk.

    Eric
     
  10. titus
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    If you are gonna mess with it youd better paint it black again....just sayin!
     
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  11. IowaMercMan
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    I know some old-timers in the CR area. I hope to see a couple of them today.... will see what I can dig up.
     
  12. Roadsir
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  13. Roadsir
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    Well the 32 hasn't been ignored by its new mate.
    Several weeks ago the car started running steadily worse. I suspected the ancient rebuilt fuel pump that I put on the car as is could be the culprit.

    I confirmed this when I checked the filters at the carbs and they were full of rubber/cork powder, and some made it into the bowls.

    I'm using a AC4297 fuel pump used on 322 in GMC trucks without the vacuum pump for accessories. I bought a rebuild kit on EBAY and it was wrong, and they couldn't get me a correct kit.

    I got ahold of cowboy John and it took him a few days but he came through with a rebuild kit.

    I should have documented the rebuild, as it's a little difficult to press the diaphragm apart, reassemble an re-peen. But it's back together and running great.

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  14. Roadsir
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    Pretty decent fall day so we took the 32 out and put some miles on the car.

    It's time to start thinking about the winter projects and loose ends that i need to address.

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  15. Great picture Eric, tell your dad I said Hi!
     
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  16. Roadsir
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    Thought about giving you a call but it actually got a little cool.... I need a top insert, side windows, Heater.....
     
  17. Any time you wanna go some place, give me a call, got almost 7,000 miles on the car this year, been fun. I'll be tearing it down before long, got a list of small stuff to do, sure has been a good year, looking forward to next!
     
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  18. vtwhead
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    Eric, what rear end ratio are you running behind that Buick box? At cruise speed what rpm's are you seeing? Got my 9 inch apart and wondering what ratio would be best in my set up with a 31 inch rear tire. Walt
     
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  19. swifty straights
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    Great story, I am also glad to see you and your family working together on this! Cant wait to see it done!
     
  20. F&J
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    Wanted to ask a question, opinion:

    I've been full tilt trying to get my 324 Olds 32 drivable again, because I have just one heated workbay, and lots of cold ones. I need to be able to drive it out, when I need to good bay for other things...

    So, I finished all the work to make it run/drive/stop after 2.5 years not running, but as I ran gas lines, I recalled your crud getting in the carbs, so I put a temporary see thru gas filter after the pump. I figured I'd see a pending pump failure, that way. Never got past 1 minute run time before gas peed out the pump's weep hole onto the fender.

    I had to fix the car no later than tonight, so I ground off the peen, then added the only two Airtex fabric discs that I had. No time to do anything decent, so I removed the small thick stepped washer under the peen, for a new thinner one. That gave me just enough new shaft sticking up to repeen.

    If I had more time, I was going to drill and tap where the peen was. What do you think on that? My 324 dual pump has the 100% exact same fuel side parts that you show, btw

    I did find a way to get that hook shaft off of the pump, without having to unpeen/and remove the pump drive push lever
     
  21. titus
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    when I was putting my 34 together I had to rebuild the pump in the 52 331 Hemi , I had a nos 283 chevy pump laying around and luckily the insides were the same. I was able to get the diaphragm off with out taking the arm apart.
     
  22. F&J
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    My two diaphragm "discs" came from a NOS unknown new pump from an older guy here. Same screwhole pattern and OD. He looked at the edges of the discs sticking out, and said "that's the good kind".

    But I got it a few years ago and used "some" of the discs to make new power valve diaphragms and new accelerator diaphragms on my 2x2 Rochester AA backdrafts. So I don't know how many discs were used in that new pump. The Olds 324 pump discs all stuck together so I can't tell how many it had.

    Not sure if I should trust just two after it's on the road???, but it did work for today..
    .
     
  23. Roadsir
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    FJ,
    My kit came with decent instructions. It suggested not grinding the peen as it wouldn't leave enough material to re-peen. It suggested using a small punch with a radius in a press that in theory would push the material back through the hole. I ground a radius on a small punch and tried an arbor press with no luck, so I moved to the hydraulic press, and finally got it to go back through. I'm not sure if the shaft is copper? Or red brass? Seemed pretty tough.

    The instructions also recommend slathering the disc washers with 2a non-hardening permatex to get a good seal to the washer ID.

    The new diaphragm material is single thickness neoprene?, maybe 3/32" or 1/8" thick. Not like the old multi-layer laminated stuff.

    The instructions mention that some pump rods are threaded with a nut, so your idea of drilling and tapping for a bolt would work, or you probably can find parts pumps, I'm guessing, from multiple AC part numbers that share the rod.

    I was able to push the diaphragm****embly into place and bias the rod to catch the lever.

    Changing the valves , and seal were real easy.

    Good luck
    Eric.


     
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  24. Roadsir
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    Well, my fuel pump rebuild didn't last long before it started leaking. My advice is don't buy a $45 kit where you have to rebuild the diaphragm, there's people that do this day in and day out, at a fair price.

    I did a little research and decided to send my pump to Arthur Gould Rebuilders on Long Island. For $90 they do it right, and restore the finish.
    Turn around time is 2 days, with great communication.

    Here's a picture.
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    I decided to send a spare in as well.
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    Might be go for a Christmas cruise, happy holidays everyone.
     
  25. Well done!!
     
  26. 383deuce
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    Merry Christmas to you and yours.
     
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  27. Roadsir
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    Having fun today with my Dad, Uncles, and Scoop.
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  28. big duece
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    from kansas

    Your 3w is outstanding!
     
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  29. deucendude
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    Glad to know it stayed in the family. A great family heirloom!
     
  30. Roadsir
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    Thanks guys, I haven't taken it too far this year, mostly around town, so yesterday was a nice little cruise, and mechanically it didn't skip a beat. It does need some refinements. Window fuzzies, and a roof insert, would go a long ways towards improving long range drivability. It's fun though!

     
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