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History HISTORY OF THE DROPPED AXEL ?????

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  1. ALLDONE
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    SO THE QUESTION IS is an axel that is a 4"forged drop axel period correct..??
    or needs to be a heated and dropped axel??
     
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  2. Royalshifter
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    Early dry lakes possibly 1930s to get the cars closer to the ground. $.02
    For sure to be corrected.
     
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  3. Fordors
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    Here’s photos of a couple of Ed Winfield cars with a dropped axle in the early ‘20’s. The first photo shows a dropped T axle but the second is dark and blurred so it’s hard to tell the origin of the axle. IMG_3121.jpeg IMG_3122.jpeg
     
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  4. scruff
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    Mercury model t speedsters had specially forged dropped axles in the early twenties
     
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  5. Jim Bouchard
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    History says it’s called a DROPPED axle
     
  6. deucemac
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    Kolbeck's on Market St. in San Diego was doing them right after indoor plumbing and electricity were invented. That's how the early dropped axles got the name of "Dago" axles.
     
  7. Jim Bouchard
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    Yeah
    Whatever, I’m wrong
    You need a history lesson

     
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  8. guthriesmith
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    I guess I’ll tell my buddy Sid that named his business Nostalgia Sid’s Dropped Axles that he needs to rename it Nostalgia Sid’s Drop Axels now that we know.
     
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  10. Rusty O'Toole
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    The speed equipment industry got going in the 1920s with the building of race cars from Model T, Chevy, Dodge and Essex cars. Dropped axles and other devices for lowering were in the same parts catalogs as engine parts, wire wheels, racing bodies etc. This was all aimed at making race cars to compete on thousands of dirt tracks around the country but some of it was used on road cars.
     
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  11. twenty8
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    Is it then called a dropped and drilled "drop axel" (sic.)...???:confused:o_O
     
  12. ALLDONE
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    that was provided by Abe Kobeck at Rogers Auto Carriage in San Diego. Abe, an old-school craftsman, taught Ed to drop axles using the drop-hammer

    good read, thanks,... he should have taught ED to dropped them using a dropped- hammer
     
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  13. When you are calling someone out check your spelling, the corrected spelling is until.

    My spelling sucks too! HRP
     
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  14. ALLDONE
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    if you have a 4''dropped axel... that means it started as a 1'' drop... and was heated and stretched to a 4''dropped axel..... if you get a 4 '' forged drop axel
    that means it was from the start a 4'' drop..so it's a 4'' drop axel... like said... you can tell a dropped axle from 20' away... so the question is ... when did the 4'' drop forged axel come about?.. a 36 is a 2'' drop... correct?
     
  15. ALLDONE
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    fuc spelling the only thing that kept me from going to colage, was hi school...

    I don't call people out with my key board...but when I do face to face they don't ask me to spell any thing...I have people that work for me that know how to spell.... so they send the letters...
     
  16. silent rick
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    mine's a mordrop
     
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  17. ALLDONE
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    when I had my street rod business we did a lot of business with with them... I always thought the idea was kinda spooky,... but never ever had a problem with them... it was easy... call and say, i need a 4'' drop axel for a model a and thats what they sent...seems like we used to have to send them core axels...

    quess now they would have to change the name to mordropped.....
     
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    [​IMG]

    The first dot-point of the services they provided sort of says it all....
     
  19. deucemac
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    Thank you for backing up my story about Kolbeck's! I only knew Kolbeck's when he had his own shop on Market St. in San Diego. A little known or cared about fact is that Kolbeck's used to do alignments on Mexican dual front axle busses when they made a trip to Tijuana. They would schedule ahead for Kolbeck's to the work
     
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  20. Clydesdale
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    Why does everything have to be a damn argument?

    Drop, Dropped, whatever. It all means the same thing.

    Keep the posts about the history coming, I'm keen to learn.

    Nobody is keen on sifting through petty nonsense about 'correct terms'
     
  21. ALLDONE
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    still wondering if a forged 4'' drop axel is period correct... or need one thats heated and dropped???the 36 axel probley will get it low enough, with spring work... IMG_4806.jpg IMG_4807.jpg IMG_4808.jpg IMG_4809.jpg IMG_4810.jpg IMG_4811.jpg


    using a T spring on the rear
     

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  23. ALLDONE
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    if you are looking at the pics.. it is an A spring... haven't done it yet....
     
  24. ALLDONE
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    made it through the first round surgery,,didn't get my arm cut off ,doc wants to try stem cell???but said between my knee and my arm... no more stick shift cars...kind of a bummer when you think about what you can no longer do....so I just think about what i've already done....keep on smiling...life is great,.. living on the edge is worth every second!!!!!!


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  25. Fortunateson
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    Drop is a verb as in “drop the ball”, present tense. Dropped is past tense as in “the axle was dropped”. So you may want to drop an axle but once it has been done you now have a “dropped axle”.
     
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  26. 302GMC
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    Dad's name was Axel ... he came to the USA in 1923 from Sweden ....
     
  27. fatassbuick
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    So he dropped in from Sweden? Or was he a drop in?
     
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  28. Because they have nothing better to do..

    Larry
     
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