Technical Hog rings on your wiring ?

Anyone ever tried using "hog rings" on some of their wiring problems? It occurred to me that the "go to" for grouping wires together is often "zip ties", but when trying to feed wires thru holes and inside some of the wiring covers/sheaths, the little locking tabs can hang up or protrude and look ****py. I just happened to be looking at an ad for some hog ring pliers and thought that maybe in certain places that grouping a small number of wires together efficiently, small hog rings might actually work well.
Anybody ever done that or seen it done?

 

Nope

 

I don't think you want to use anything metallic or conductive.

 

I wouldn’t think it would be a good idea. Good way to get a short

 

Lacing twine is the way to go

 

Or fishing line. You might even catch something.

 

Nope, asphalt loom

 

Put some shrink tube on the ring first....

 

Hog rings, no, never heard of using them.

Laced wire looms are awesome and in my mind nothing looks more professional, but I don't think I'd have the patience to do a great job of it. I use loosely pulled zip ties or twist ties like from a bread bag to thread individual wires to approximate locations, just to keep them in appropriate bundles. On my Model A I finished up using asphalt coated cloth loom of various sizes, steeping down the size as smaller bundles split off. I got the cloth loom from NAPA.

Lynn

 

I use lacing tape but like Steve said, with some shrink tube or equivalent I would do it. Sounds like a quick and easy way to corral a small group of wires in difficult places.

 

Hog rings are for seat cushions, plastic ties for everything else.

 

Sounds like a short waiting to happen. HRP

 

When I worked at Ford's Body Engineering Department we were not permitted to use any sharp pointed screws under the instrument panel or any place near a wiring harness. We had to use blunt-ended screws. I would think the same precaution would apply to using a hog ring. Don't do it.

 

Unicorn-gut exclusively

Seriously however, no hog rings on wiring. Extra-please.

 

Funny, some folks act like using metal to retain wires is some sort of horrible safety faux-pas. Have you ever looked under '50s and '60s cars? There are usually at least a few metal clips that are stamped steel and not de-burred holding wires and harness runs. I don't think using a sleeved, round ring made of wire is horribly dangerous. It's an interesting suggestion used properly. (as guides, not crimped tightly onto the wire) Would I do it to 10-12 ga hot wires, no.

 

I've put hog rings on upholstery, but never in a hog's ear. When doing uphostery, it seems it's rather difficult to control the ring's compression....that alone will scare me off using it for this.

Stamped metal clips that retain wire are shaped to not damage the wire, they are much wider than a hog ring.

 

Metal straps holding up a harness is normal, but he's talking about bundling the wires then fitting that into a cover. I think the hog rings would snag on anything unless you grind down the pointed tips (also they add too much thickness). I like to run a harness cover that opens up to repair or add stuff (only use asphalt covering were it can be seen). I collect twist ties to hold wiring together temporarily when I'm building them, you can use twist ties to hold the wires while you insert then into a covering.

 

The ends of the hog ring are sharp and pointy. The groups of wire are usually run in tight places. Places when you reach in those hard-to-get places, you will cut your hands and arms.

 

If you need long lengths of this stuff, you can buy it on a roll from the gardening supply place.
If you are just putting the loom into a sheath, a quick turn of insulation tape will do, the sheath does the rest.

 

To be fair, on many electrical systems, it is a safety concern. I have used hog rings to fix upholstery, they are not smooth like drill rod for example. Also, the hog ring pliers aren't very handy in a tight space. Accidental over-compression of a wire does damage it, as well. Even a zip tie can do that damage. But I agree, in the past metal was used. I have metal ones in my Chevy, that are really more like hooks.

But unless we're going for a correct resto, then we have better ways and the ubiquitous zip tie is hard to beat, in my opinion. We also have access to some really nifty adhesives these days that allow a dedicated, slick locking retainer to be placed anywhere.

 

You could use plastic ties on seats, but never hog rings on electric wires.

 

Sounds to me like someone wants to let the Smoke Genie free ! Never never would I attempt this approach .

 

Just a point of clarification from the back forty, the rings go in the hogs nose, to keep them from rooting.

 

Thanks, I learn something every day on the HAMB

 

Use these -
Just DON'T...pull the zip-ties tight !! Can also use with the lacing tape (string) .
The magnets are pretty strong, should stay put most any place (metal !) you put them.

https://magdaddyusa.com/products/cable-tie-mounts/

Mike

 

Me too. Learn way more than I teach, love my time here.

 

Do the magnets mess with the flow of the current in the wires. Especially with speaker wires. @Crazy Steve

 

i use gm style wire split tubing...not traditional...so sue me...

 

Mr Squirrel , I’m amazed at the difference in “ facts of life “ between what I think is normal and what someone that grew up in a different region of the country has seen and learned as normal in life . Not meaning anything bad , it’s just amazing I never gave it a minute of thinking ,maybe the person doesn’t know or never seen or installed “ a hog ring “ actually in a hog or how it got its name . Hogs are tough SOBs , I have seen the snout lined from one side to the other to try to stop them from routing out of the wire pins they are raised in .

My Dad always told me “ a day that goes by that you don’t learn something is a day in your life you have wasted “ I’m still learning today .

 

Pig rings are a bit bigger. About twice the size.