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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Humboldt Cat, Sep 9, 2003.

  1. Humboldt Cat
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    Was gonna post this in Tech-O-Matic, but thought I'd ask here, too- I got a Holley 4165 off of EBay to rebuild for my Ford, found out it was last on a Chevy.
    How can I adapt this for my 390 FE, is there a different throttle plate I can put on, or are they very adaptable as it is?
    Anyone else made this blind mistake before (I hope not)?
     
  2. shouldnt be to hard to put on your ford. only concern would be kick down linkage if your car is an automatic. if its a spreadbore you can get an adapter to put it on a regular pattern intake.
     
  3. Humboldt Cat
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    That sounds doable. Yeah, I'll need kickdown linkage for the C6. Right now I'm running a 2-Barrel Holley/Model 2300 on the stock cast iron 2Barrel manifold, can't wait to get an Eldebrock Peformer 390 for the 4-Barrel. Thanks for the word, Rickyracer. I feel like I'm posting too many questions, lately, not giving enough help in return.
     
  4. AnimalAin
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    Look into the Lokar (or competitor's similar) kickdown cable. Simple, installation doesn't usually need too much fabrication, and works well. If you get the low-tech black job instead of the stainless cable housing, it blends in and you don't even notice that it is there.....
     
  5. Humboldt Cat
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    Strange, that's one I've had my sights on. Admittedly, I'm new at the kickdown stuff, and I thought the Ford kickdowns had to be a rod. Found one in a local yard (not easy to find), and couldn't get it to fit. But that's what you get putting a motor where the factory didn't design it for.
    This truck project was my refresher course back into hotrodding, after bein' sober of it in college years. Drove the truck without realizing it was missing a kickdown (not knowing what that was), using only 2 of the 3 gears all along. Dumb, man, yet that's what makes Class so interesting.
    Glad to know the 50-some buck item should work out well.
     
  6. Deyomatic
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    You should check with Holley, they make alot of Kickdown brackets. Not sure if they'd have one for that application, but if they do, it will most likely work. If not, a phone call can't hurt.

    BTW, the Boss rules...
    Working all day in my Daddy's garage, driving all night chasing some mirage...
     
  7. plan9
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    i cant remember exactly, when i baught my holley i think it came with some spare linkage stuff...ill take a look at it as well as the install instructions when i get home.

     
  8. Humboldt Cat
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    Plan9- any chance in buying some of that spare linkage? It's missing a few things, a trick kit is on the way, not sure what I'll still need after that, but I'm certain kickdown stuff I'll still need.
    Deyomatic- yer the first one to notice the Boss line, how cool. "Pretty soon, lil' girl, I'm gonna take charge.."
     
  9. plan9
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    if i got it, its yours... you just have to pay the shipping [​IMG]

     
  10. Humboldt Cat
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    As Kramer would say: "Giddy-up!"
    Keep me posted, and thanks! BTW, how'd a 4165 work out for you, and what'd you run it on? Read some old posts on the Net, some Yahoo said it had some of the smallest primaries of 4-barrels, gave bad mileage for the performance it gave (or took away). Just wonderin'.
     
  11. Deyomatic
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    Well, Giddyup again! From my understanding the 4165 is the Q-jet replacement, right. The cutaway I have of one looks that way anyway, and yes, the primaries look really small, but that is a Q-jet thing. As for the regular old Q-jets, I've heard that WHEN TUNED PROPERLY they are the cat's ass. Most likely this Yahoo, had no idea how to tune it. My buddy had a Q-jet from a 73 Olds or something, supposedly rebuilt from ebay. The first time I saw the car that he had it in, all I could smell was gas. You would have to FLOOR it just to start the car, even after it had been running awhile. He got around 9 MPG on a LOW PERFORMANCE 350. I told him that something was definately wrong with it. We went to AutoZone and got the Q-jet to spreadbore adapter ($14) and slapped my old Holley 750 (4160 #3310) on it and it started up without any throttle. He noticed much better throttle response and kept remarking about how quick it was. He now gets 13 MPG. Holley 750, the fuel economy carb!

    One of my favorite Springsteen lines is from Lost in the Flood on Asbury Park. "There was nothing left but some blood where the body fell, and there was nothing left that you could sell, just junk all across the horizon, a real highwayman's farewell..."
     
  12. Humboldt Cat
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    Deyomatic- that really helped, thanks, I can't wait to hook it up with a new manifold, tuned well o' course. I'll keep ya posted, if you'd like. "Lost In The Flood" is a great tune, one of my favorites is "Darkness on the Edge of Town": "Tonight I'll be on that hill, 'cause I can't stop/Well I'll be on that hill with everything that I got/For lives on the line, where dreams are finally lost/Well I'll be there on time, and I'll pay the cost/For wanton things that can only be found..." Ever seen him in concert? I'd read the '69 Chevy he and his partner Sonny built straight out of scratch in "Racing in the Streets" was actually a '57 Chevy he built 'n ran in "real life". With a 396, Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor.
     
  13. Deyomatic
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    That't pretty cool, Too bad he didn't say so in the song. That is a great cruisin' song but I always feel like I should mulletize when listening to songs about 69 Chevies. I'd feel much better about crusin with it if it were a 57 Chevy. A buddy of mine is a Springsteen fan because, as he puts it, "The Boss; he smokes Marlboros, drinks Budweiser, and drives a Chevy." Whether or not it is true, I don't know, but I get the idea, he's just a regular guy.

    Check Autozone for that adaptor, Spectre makes it.
     

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