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Holy model A visor TECH

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kustombuilder, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
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    no it's not a religious thing... or is it??? ;)

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    pretty simple. nothing ground breaking or revolutionary here but i was pretty happy with the results and it realy only took a couple hours to complete.


    I started by figuring out where to put the holes. easily the most time consuming part. rather than put a million marks on the visor trying to figure out what configuration i liked i layed out some holes on a piece of poster board. (i had already determined the size of the holes based on the amount of space i had on the visor, from top to bottom, keeping in mind the amount the "belling" would increase the hole size.).
    once i came up with a spacing i liked i layed out several of them on the posterboard. i had already marked the center of the visor in both planes for reference.
    i had to decide weather i wanted a hole in the center of the visor or not (that would determine if i had an odd or even number of holes). after placing the posterboard on the visor, using the center line for placement, i went back and forth untill i decided to go with the even number (no hole in the center).

    after that i transfered the centerline of the holes onto the visor itself across the horizontal centerline. i goofed a couple times so don't forget to double check your work before you do any cutting.
    i did most of this work on my living room floor, since it was colder that a witches *** in a br*** bra in my garage. i'm a single guy so i can get away with this. you married guys might considering just dealing with the cold or you could end up sleeping on the couch. :D

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    then it was off to GMgrunts place to use one of his kick*** giant drill presses (yes he has more than one. *******!) and his (nicer than mine) hole saws.
    once the holes were in place i stuck the visor in the blast cabinet and cleaned it up. a once over with 80grit on a DA had it looking very nice.
    i also used a large half round file to clean up the inside edges of the holes after drilling.


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    next step was to bring it to my buddy Matt Lesky at The Ionia Hot Rod Shop for the "belling" treatment that not only looks cool but adds rigidity. since i had everything ready to roll there was very little to do once i was there but place the holes individually in the press and do the belling. The Ionia Hot Rod Shop has specialy made and hardened dies to bell nearly any size hole. it did'nt take long and it was done and ready to go back to my customer.

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    The Ionia Hot Rod Shop are the undisputed Kings of the belled hole. Matt and his father Denny did'nt invent the "belled" hole but they are driving the bandwagon that the rest of hot rodding has jumped on. and who can blame us.

    funny story about this. several years ago my friend and teacher Paul Beck, after seeing the drawings for my model A with all it's holes in the frame and visor, told me that if i liked all those holes he had someone i just had to meet. and that is how i came to know the boys at The Ionia Hot Rod Shop. before meeting Denny i thought I was a perfectionist. i'm a hack in comparison. their work humbles me to the core.


    by the way. those are 2.5" holes. overall with the belled edges taken into consideration the size is about 3".
     
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  2. JLasvegas
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    Looks very good, nice and subtle
     
  3. kustombuilder
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    i never realy looked to see how many holes other people were using until i was done. i noticed that most of the pics i came across had 9 hole sin the visor. i'm very happy that i went with 8, i think it looks less busy. ironically, i never thought any of the others looked busy at all until i finished this one and compared the two. just my opinion/preference though.
     
  4. Littleman
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  5. Chopperman
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    I did something a bit different. I like it. People are 50/50 on it at shows and stuff though

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    with paint

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  6. kustombuilder
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    i dig the mesh!

    Mr. Lohr. i dig yours as well. i would have thought (while doing this one) that 11 was way too many but it looks good on yer car for sure. i gave myself a limit as to how far out i was going to let them go and it looks like your went out a bit further than i did.
    to be honest i have'nt seen one (no matter the number of holes) that i did'nt like. i was just real happy with how this one came out. might try something different the next time around. who knows.
     
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  7. Chopperman
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    yup.. they all look good... I do like the "less busy" look though, mine would probably look better with less holes and still keep the perf metal
     
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  9. JRRoberts
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    what spacing did you use between the holes?
     
  10. kustombuilder
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    whatever i decided looked right. i forget.... just remembered i still have my template in here. looks like 5.5" center of hole to center of hole.
     
  11. JRRoberts
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    Thanks, I am drilling mine today and thats exactly what spacing I am going to use.
     
  12. abone1930
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    No its an old thread, but where do they sell the tool to do the rolled edges on the inside of the holes? My visor is welded to the car, so I will have to do it while its on there. Any part #"s or a link to buy it?
     
  13. Just Gary
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    I got my flare die from Mittler Brothers; http://www.mittlerbros.com/punch__flares.htm

    I drilled and flared my visor while holding it in a workbench vise, but you could do it while attached to the car, being especially careful with the hole saw.

    If you must do it attached to the car, a better way would be to buy the combination punch/flare die. Then you avoid the hole saw step entirely. According to Mittler Brothers' ad; "Just drill a pilot hole for the draw bolt and then apply the tool and tighten. The finished hole is smooth and flared. COOL!"

    Hope this helps.
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  14. abone1930
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    Man thanks for the info:D, going to purchase one today, so what you think a 2 1/2 or 3" hole.
    Thanks again for the info, I think you are the first person I have talked to on the Hamb that actually gave me the info I needed without beatin around the bush :rolleyes:
     
  15. Just Gary
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    After doing a search, looking at lots of pix, and exchanging PMs with ROLF and Littleman, I went with eleven 2.5" holes:
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  16. abone1930
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    One more quick question before I hole up my visor:D
    Do you get any sun glare through the holes that might be blinding?
     
  17. Just Gary
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    Unfortunately, I can't answer that- my tudor isn't anywhere near driveable yet.

    If blinding glare is a problem, I'll just wear cheap sungl***es.

    Besides, the holes will enable me to see traffic lights that would otherwise be out-of-sight due to the top chop and rubber rake. :)
     
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  18. Inland empire hot rods
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    great short thread from the dead
     

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