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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by moparsled, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. budd
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    hey i`d like to build one myself, i have the right diff, does anyone have DWG`S or can tell me where i can find them?
     
  2. movin/on
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    The QC in CornFed's Pic is a Franklin QC conversion to an original V-8 center section. I traded one of those to a guy in Pittsburg Pa. for my Latham 4 carb probably around 1990. At that time I had 5 other Hallibrand QC's that I sold off way too cheaply. Now I wish i'd kept one! Regular halibrand gear sets fit the Franklin coversion
     
  3. budd
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    whats the center to center dim. from the pinion to the other lower longer shaft, what need to be done to the pinion so you can install the gear?
     
  4. kustombuilder
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    BTT. interested in this and want to read more about it...
     
  5. turdytoo
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    When I was a kid in Fresno, Chuck Tanko sent me to Ernie Lockes welding shop to have a 392 T/F head that had been torched between the cylinders, repaired. I asked this old man how he was going to fix it and he showed me his pre-heat oven and told me lots of stories of his early days racing and the stuff he had made. He also had an old midget that he said he scratch built. He said he made his own quick change. I read years later in an article, (I think HRM) that general consciences was " Ernie Locke of Fresno" had built the first one. I later read in the "Vukovich" book that Billy and Fred had bought one of the two midgets that Ernie Locke had.
     
  6. 22dodge
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  7. BTTT because this is a cool *** thread and we need more info. Maybe Cyclone Kevin will pick up the gaulant and make one to see how it works.
     
  8. 22dodge
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    Here area couple of photos of mine, ***embled and chromed center.
    Still need to paint the bells. ***embly and machining was done by Lime Works.
    And installed under the roadster. '22
     

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  9. 22dodge
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    These were on eBay last week, sold for around $400.00 for the set of 3.
    Supposed to be 3 of 5 sets made.
    Offset quill shaft, interesting design, virgin castings.
    Supposed to use stock Ford ring and pinion / carrier set up.
    I hope the buyer was a HAMB member and will put one in service and post the photos. '22
     

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  10. Rods & Relics
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    Obviously not those above. Does anyone have any info on a 9" Quick change. I presume the normal 9" internals or maybe just crown wheel and pinion like above ? I hadn't heard of them before, but some here in Oz is ch***ing info on them.
    Any info please ??

    CHEERS,
    Rod.
     
  11. Dale Fairfax
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    The secret of a quick change is the use of the early Ford (or Ford 3/4 ton Timken) ring and pinion set where the pinion meets the ring gear on centerline. I can't envision any way to accomplish the same thing using any late model R & P since they are all of the "Hypoid" design where the two gears intersect well below center-in the area where the bottom or through shaft p***es.







     
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  12. Rods & Relics
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    I agree Dale, maybe it's just the size of the cown wheel they where thinking of ?? I really don't know very much about them my self, so I figured it was time to learn :D:D

    Thank's,
    Rod.
     
  13. Great thread, BTTT for fresh input.
     
  14. brokenspoke
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    That is for the Champ QC
     
  15. Old Guy
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    I am gathering all the parts right now to fabricate my quickchange. Will post some pictures when I start building it.
     
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  16. 22dodge
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    OK, here is my input.
    The quick change is detailed and back in the car.

    After Steve at Limeworks talked me into chroming the banjo, the flat black paint just
    didn't look right.....;)
    So I dis***embled the whole car and redid the frame and running gear in gloss black.
    Much better, if I do say so. '22
     

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  17. 22dodge
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    He are some photos of various steel conversions, some may have been
    posted in other threads, some may belong to other HAMBers.
    I believe most came from eBay...
    I find the different construction methods very interesting. '22
     

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  18. 22dodge
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    And here are some more.... :D
     

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  19. 22dodge
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    And a final few... ;) '22
     

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  20. 22dodge
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    And finally, here are some photos of the work on mine done by
    Steve and the Lime Works crew..
    Quill shaft modified for bearing placement, and ***embly after chroming.
    And the raw case we started with.. '22
     

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  21. fullhouse296
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    The three castings on E bay , look very much like the custom cast one on Ron Hogans (desc) old midget in NZ.
     
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  22. Rem
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    Very interesting thread. I can see that the lower input shaft location would allow a lower engine/trans/torque tube setup, but is the axle/diff unit sealed at the input shaft? I know that very low cars with stock banjos drain down along the torque tube if a baffle isn't fitted, so these would suffer even more?

    EDIT: 22dodge, that rolling ch***is looks great.
     
  23. banjorear
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    Wow, looks great!
     
  24. Dago 88
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    Here's a Model A one I brought from New Zealand a few years ago .I was told it's a "Ross", it looks similar to Ron Hagons also.
    Cheers Dago
     

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  25. Thanks for all the pics. We were discussing this project last night. I have access to an early Halibrand rear cover I can replicate, 1st step done!
     
  26. hugh m
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    Interesting thread. Most folks around here remember the Highland quickie, will try to post some photos of the ones I've had. Never have seen one of Pappy's quickies, but have heard that they access through the front, can anyone confirm their configuration?
     
  27. Any of you guys have one a person could get their hands on for measurements? It is nice to fondle something like this when embarking on your own project.
     
  28. fuel
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    I've been wanting to do this as well. I'm going to try and get a QC center section just so I can take some measurements and draw it up in AutoCAD and make one. I have a few banjo rearends laying around in case I mess one up. LOL.
     

  29. I would really dig some prints!?!?!?! I'll be yer buddy:):D
     
  30. budd
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    i would love to see the jig they use to hold everything in place while its being welded, the way they keep the shaft center to center spacing and how the lower shaft bearing retainers lined up and parallel to the pinion shaft.
     

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