I guess im a dinosaur than..'Cause i come from an era that watched what my kid did and taught them not to touch other peoples stuff. And if they did they not only got a lesson from the owner , than got "The" Lesson from the ol' man. This world is turning to shit because no one can think for them selves any more. They need a law for everything including stupid people and the dumb shit they do.
Ha! Here in Florida, if someone's breaking into your house, you can shoot and kill them. No problem with lawsuits. Darwin can send out another award. I don't know who pays for the bloodstain on the carpet though... Mike
You're not old...you're responsible. It's called common sense which 95% of society doesn't have. Parents generally don't watch or discipline their children these days. It's cool Von Figg Fink, I'll be an old dinosaur with you. Here's a further play into these hypothetical scenarios. Say some yuppie is wandering around a cruise show and his little kid(let's just say between 7-11 years old) runs off and while he's not being watched (which is what a responsible parent would do) he grabs a header and gets serious burns. I wonder how many people would make a call to child services about the parent. I would think not watching your kid and letting them run around and endanger their well-being wouldn't be smiled upon by child services. I could be mistaken though. What do yall think? I think this is an extremely interesting discussion though!
They could not ever possibly be injured from being curious. Depending on their age: A.) They could be injured because you failed to properly supervise them. or B.) They could be injured because you failed to properly teach them to NEVER touch someone else's property. Either way they are YOUR kids and YOU need to take responsibility. And yes, I have 2 grade school aged kids who knew as soon I could let go of their hands, not to touch shit they don't own.
Right on Brother! we got to dam many lawyers as it is..screwing up this world. fuckin sue happy ass holes are ruining all the good ol fun we used to have. If my brat got too far from me , or was out of control in public . everyone in a 3 block radius would know about it, and the sound of my voice would stop my kid dead in their tracks.
Well its about time! im all for that! how many times can you shoot them? is there a limit? hell if i get to plug the jerk who just invaded my house, I'll have no problem wrapping him up in the carpet he just stained
I agree that parents should educate and moderate their children. But, just as I'd try to keep a child from falling into a woodchipper, I'd still try to keep them from burning the living crap out of themselves on the 5-inch, yard-long resonators that run parallel at ankle level on my hog. I've already yanked a couple of toddlers away at the last second. Afterward I straightaway had a chat with the parents. I can only hope they listened to me and didn't think I was just a scary biker out to ruin their good time.
It would most likely be up to a jury, though the legal fees to protect yourself from a lawyer on the other side who works for a third of recovery could be pretty bad. Then again, I've had dumbasses try to tell me that the kustom we're building isn't traditional because I upgraded it with a dual-master. I wonder if trad liability laws would apply if a single-channel master failed...
I suppose you could tell the cops"the damn fool kept coming at me even after I fired 25 bullets into him". You're probably right about the carpet, it's cheap. Mike
stupid people shouldn't breath......... but Lil kids roaming at car shows????that means stupid people shouldn't breed!
what a convenient time for this to come up....just as i finish the sidepipes for t-v8 and telling the wife she dont know jack as she bitches that someones gonna get burned
My wife and I already had this talk about how things are gunna go when we have kids. Im 28 now and I can tell you that if my kid does something stupid and gets hurt(unless a tiger bites his arm off)on, near or around someone else's property Im gunna tell them "you shouldn't have been around there". I got hurt climbing a neighbors fence and cut my leg open. My father whacked me good and dragged me to the persons house so I could apologize to the woman for climbing her fence and causing her to take time out of her day to help me for my stupidity. No one got sued and I learned my lesson....stay off /away from other peoples property. The same will go for my kids.
had a guy at bobs tell me i should cover my side pipes because some kid (who has not been taught dont touch any thing that is not yours)could burn themselves............my reply was....... only once. i would feel bad if it happend but it would not be my fault my kid was always taught if its not yours DO NOT TOUCH..period too many sue happy folks who dont teach or better yet watch there kids why would a 3 year old not be with supervision....unless the parent aint no smarter which could be the case now days.....the respect for someons stuff it appears is not taught anymore its easier to sue than to simply teach sorry for the rant flyn
Too many politicians, lawyers, and people not wanting to take responsibility for their own actions = The Wussyfication of America!
parents need to take responsibility to teach their kids some freakin car show etiquette. I can't believe how many crappy parents watch their kids touch cars and not say a word to correct them. Instead of parents putting the safety of their kids in strangers hands they should take responsibility and watch their kid like a freaking hawk.
Now THIS is a gay thread. Those defending the hypothetical kid should really do some soul searching, those attitudes are part of the PROBLEM not the solution. If I touched a hot pipe when I was a kid my dad would have asked "not going to do that again are you!?" followed by "I hope you learned your lesson"
We have the same laws here too. But if you aren't home, or don't have a gun, and then they get hurt, it's YOUR ass.
Everyone is right on, we were taught not to touch other peoples stuff as kids, by our responsible parents, but now, too many parents are stupid dipshits who would prefer society to raise their kids. That is why so many people are trying to change society, so they don't have to change themselves. They want to blame anything negative their child does on some one else. I was raised by a very stern father, and I have raised my son the same way, and he is one of the most polite and well behaved 16 year olds I have ever seen. Probably better than I was at that age. If you are fucking around with something that does not belong to you, then you deserve what ever happens to you.
I rapped my pipes with header wrap .It seems to deepen the sound also keeps me from burning the sh t out of myself .My little one stays away from the heat but shes pretty smart like that.As far as getting sued that is life in America to many hungry lawyers with German car payments .
my buddy has lake pipes on his chevy so this lady hit him and fucked the door up and it wouldnt open so he strap tied it intell he could get a new door so one night were driving and i had been just getting out of the car throw the window because im skinny and 19 and stupid and bam my leg hits that pipe and burned me right throw my jeans i got a big old burn and puss and all came out i still got a scar buts its tattooed over now
There was a time that would have worked. I know because that's the way I was raised, but we live in a new time. There are a lot of people looking to cash in and get the "big lawsuit" money. Even if it means one of their children or themselves, suffers pain. There are people who purposely lock up their brakes in traffic, so they will get rearended. I think a parent who lets their kid run free needs to locked up, unfortunately, for every parent who is absent minded, there is a lawyer who will take the freaking case. I started this thread to get opinions and perhaps find a solution to what could be an issue. My solution will be to stand near my car til the pipes cool down. Problem solved. Oh, I deleted, "Now, THIS is a gay thread." from the quote because safety is NOT gay. There are laws going to vote every year that could keep us from doing what we like to do. Ignoring what's going on around us and trying to find a solution is NOT gay. Sitting in your garage, looking at your hot rod that got legislated off the streets becaused it was deemed unsafe? THAT'S gay.
Aussie regs require shields on exposed exhaust headers and shrouds on fan and other drive belts on exposed engines. The reasoning behind it is if you bowl a pedestrian over at a crossing and they fall into the engine bay they're not going to score extra injuries due to moving parts or hot pipes. Shields for pipes are easy to make out of thin steel stock or mesh, and if done properly don't mess up the appearance of the engine bay. Same goes for fan belt shrouds. We have to do it for rego purposes, but I'd probably do it anyway for safety reasons even if I didn't have to. Cheers, Glen.
You need to fight the good fight, by agreeing with society you are only perpetuating the wrongs. Teach your kids, teach others who are ignorant as well. We can get back to common sense, trust me. And I never said safety is gay, this thread is gay and this will be my last reply, but, let me add an example, my gas grill gets really hot. It sets outside where anyone can touch it........is that any different or more unsafe than exhaust on my car? My lawnmower has a muffler about the right height for a two year old to grab, is that any worse than a car? These are precendental examples that actually support open exhaust on cars. If you legislate one out of exhistance then by that logic you should legislate em all away. Comes back to common sense, we need more of it. As Ice Cube said "fuck all ya'll"
if Your That Fuckin Worried About It,,,ride The Bus..... .....threads Like This Make Me Wonder About You Guys..... I Wish Germ Was Still Here....
Where did I say I was worried? Did you just need a reason to write something? Thanks for your useless contribution to the discussion.
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