Hey guys I got a couple ??? Im brain storming on how im going to set up my clutch pedal its all stock clutch atached to Master cylinder.How did you guys make it work Thats all I need pritty much to get the show on the road....Any advise would help Thanks guys....Viva La H.A.M.B!!
This is interesting! No matter what my next car will be, if it doesn't have a 4 speed already, I WANNA PUT ONE IN IT!! I'd love to see some home made constructions here (doesn't have to be '49 - '54 Chevy for me). Especially some linkage setups from the clutch pedal to the clutch fork...
I was going to use the clutch/brake assembly from an S10 in my 49, but ended up going with an auto tranny instead. I cut the S10 assembly in half and used the brake pedal portion, along with the booster and master cylinder mounted on the firewall. The stock pedals are still there, and the stock clutch pedal could be used if I ever wanted to go that way...it's got FOUR pedals now!! The S10 hydraulic assembly would take some real creative fabbing to make work, but the brake pedal fit kinda sorta well after much cutting, bending and cobbling!!
Im running a big block and a 4-speed, so its not exactly stock, but this might give you some ideas anyway. Im using a hydraulic setup on my 51. Its a Wilwood master, with a generic "pusher" slave. The slave is mounted on a homemade bracket, which is mounted on 2 of the bell housing bolts. The slave pushes directly on the fork.
[ QUOTE ] Im running a big block and a 4-speed, so its not exactly stock, but this might give you some ideas anyway. Im using a hydraulic setup on my 51. Its a Wilwood master, with a generic "pusher" slave. The slave is mounted on a homemade bracket, which is mounted on 2 of the bell housing bolts. The slave pushes directly on the fork. [/ QUOTE ] c51, that's pretty much waht I have planned for a winter project, but I was also thinking of a hydraulic throwout bearing. Anybody got any suggestions on that? It's a Muncie 4-speed on a SBC.
[ QUOTE ] it's got FOUR pedals now!! [/ QUOTE ] FH, you should hook up two master cylinders, one for the left side wheels, one for the right. Think of how well that thing woould corner! Like the tracks on a bulldozer or military tank!!!
[quotebut I was also thinking of a hydraulic throwout bearing. Anybody got any suggestions on that? It's a Muncie 4-speed on a SBC. [/ QUOTE ] Slide, Ok, Im running a Borg Warner Super T-10 with the big block, so its pretty close to your setup. Oh yea, I had origianlly ordered a hydraulic T.O. But after looking at it and doing a test fit, I ended not using it and returned it. A few things I didnt like about it: -They are pretty expensive. -There was no over travel protection; if it was over extended, it could come apart or leak inside the bellhousing. -They give you a number of shims to use in order to get zero clearance with the pressure plate. With the shims they provided, I could never acheive this. So anyway, I ended up going with the external pusher slave. Over the winter, I will probably switch to a Wilwood "puller" slave to get a little move travel. Not sure if I have any build pics, but if I do I'll e-mail them to you.
Thanks, c51! Good info! I might be PM-ing you when I get into this (after KKOA Dennison in October). You wouldn't happen to have any advice and/or part #s to share on choosing a clutch master or slave cylinder, wouldja? I have an old pusher slave that actually came off the car that the tranny came out of. I was fortunate enough to get the whole assy from flywheel to tailshaft, including the shifter and bellhousing. Hopefully I can use most of that. The clutch even looks to be in good shape. Thanks again for the info!
[ QUOTE ] You wouldn't happen to have any advice and/or part #s to share on choosing a clutch master or slave cylinder, wouldja? I have an old pusher slave that actually came off the car that the tranny came out of. [/ QUOTE ] Sent ya a PM. The slave is this one: http://www.wilwood.com/Products/MasterCylinders/010-SC/index.asp Its kinda long, so room may be a problem. Im dont remember the bore/stroke on the master, but its one of these (some help, huh!). I can check and post back: http://www.wilwood.com/Products/MasterCylinders/002-CRMC/index.asp
I'm doing this right now on my roadster (327-Muncie M21), maybe this will be helpful on your car. I know the trend is hydraulic setups but I felt more comfortable with a mechanical setup. I have a deuce factory clutch/brake pedal setup, (clutch pedal pulls,instead of pushing) I started fiddling with a zbar layout but it was in the way of everthing. I ended up cutting the zbar way down, and made tabs to mount it vertically on the frame rail right ahead of the pedals. Its basically a what I would call a bellcrank setup now. I drilled holes in the arms to play with leverage settings. It saved a lot of room which I needed for exhaust on the 32 frame. I could take some pics if you want to see the layout
I wish to hell Id' have taken photos of my home-grown setup in my 50 chevy sedan delivery. I ran a 406 sbc with a Lakewood scatter shield and a saginaw 4 speed.I used the stock pedal but all the stock parts ended right there. I went to my local U-Pull-it and yanked all the clutch linkage from a 73-79 ford 2 W.D. pickup. I also grabbed the stamped steel brackets on either side of the "Z bar" or equalizer bar. They locate the Z-bar. I mounted one bracket on the top of the frame rail just like on the original pickup. On the other end, I had to fab up a bracket to bolt the ford pivot bracket on the lower edge of the scatter shield. With the block protector plate bolted in place, the lower 1/2 of the scatter shield is plenty beefy enough to mount bracketry to. I measured the space between the two Z-bar pivot points and cut the Z-bar in half, cut out the uneeded Z-bar length right in the middle. This left 2 pieces of Z-bar with their welded-on levers...Held the two halves up in place and twisted them around until I came up with the leverage I thought would work to pull the throwout arm and tacked the 2 halves with my mig. Bolted it all together and tried out the operation....looked great. Finished welded the two pieces and made a final installation and adjustment....never had a bit of trouble with it and it was easy to adjust...cheap to buy new Z-bar plastic bushings for, although I used the old junkyard bushings in mine.
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