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Technical How do you dispose of used antifreeze?

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  1. gimpyshotrods
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    By whom, and when?

    It most certainly is not.
     
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  2. gimpyshotrods
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    More often than not, and at an ever growing percentage, that is propylene glycol, and not ethylene glycol.

    Propylene glycol is a food additive, and won't kill animals, unless they drown in it.
     
  3. nochop
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    it would be the sh*ts if the anti freeze killed all the enzymes and bacteria that made a septic tank work
     
  4. Yes! I have 15 gallons of used AF in each of rear JD loader/hoe tires and 5 gallons in each front tire. 4x4. Local radiator repar shops had a waiting list, of farmers wanting old AF for tire weight.
    Calicum is heavier than AF, but it rusts the wheels.
    Put a ad in your local freebe paper, or FB Marketplace
     
  5. CSPIDY
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    airports have special ramps for de-icing, they have a recovery system to keep it out of the ground
     
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  6. atch
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    Thanks to everyone; especially In_The_Pink. I've only lived in/around Columbia for 55 years. I never knew that the city would take it and never thought to Google it.

    I'll take it to the city next time they are open.
     
  7. Bandit Billy
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    Set some out in a tray in the corner of your garage if you have mouse problems. You won't for long. Keep it away from the cats.
     
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  8. 2OLD2FAST
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    Unless you have a cat problem ..
     
  9. Ned Ludd
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    What's a cat problem?! :D
     
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  10. 2OLD2FAST
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    Ones that are feral & alive .
     
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  11. jnaki
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    Hello,

    Back when we lived in the Westside of Long Beach, we were centrally located near two big county dump sites. When we took our captured antifreeze /oil to them, they took it and put it in a big barrel. We assumed that once full, they buried the barrels deep in the “dump” soil location. One was in Carson, CA, which is now the remnants of the old landfill area. The other one in Southern Long Beach is now a shopping center after 30 + years of inactivity.

    But, these days, everyone and every county has their own “dump” site that is EPA approved. The local trash trucks are always in line to dump the collectibles from communities. But, in the place where it is approved to dump anything, there are special places near the daily dump places that only take recyclables, like electronic devices, batteries and old tv/stereo circuit units. Also, on the same site is the area for old paints, gas and other combustibles ready for disposal. There is no cost, other than gas/car usage to get there and back. This is where local auto shops, backyard hot rod folks use to dispose of those “bad” chemicals.

    Jnaki

    There is even a county wide restriction for washing cars in the street or property that drains into the ocean. The solution is to go to the commercial places that recycle water usage and do not dump right into the sewer line or street openings that lead to the ocean. Those commercial places have to capture and recycle the fluids into the official “dump” sites as required.

    Note:

    So, the big question is, where do the golf courses capture the runoff sprinkler system water drainage on site? It and thousands of pollutants in fertilizers gets shoved into the street drains that lead to the ocean outlets? Time to change all pollutants that once were buried into the ground. Whether they dissipate in weeks or years…

    Oil change places do recycle properly in those acceptable recycle locations in various communities. check them out! YRMV
     
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  12. 2OLD2FAST
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    Do some feet on the ground checking , the majority of recycling is a joke , always has been .
     
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  13. GlassThamesDoug
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    Yep, I filter it thru cloth...sediment drops out.
     
  14. dirt car
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    As Bandit Billy mentioned those pesky mice aren't immune to the toxins, living outside the city limits in Papillion Ne. I have combated the mole & gopher issues from time to time & not sure which of the many remedies worked as I've tried them all & some simultaneously. Uncertain if using anti- freeze sparingly in the various mole tunnels may have been the best solution.
     
  15. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I grew up in the country on a dirt road and remember the township tanker truck coming down the road a couple of times each summer, spraying the road with a coating of oily goop. Even then I wondered if that was a good idea.
     
  16. I remember in the 1960s in Australia the town council did the same on our unmade residential street.
     
  17. mrspeedyt
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    for the last 70+ years we save the old AF and use as needed for the cabin toilet bowl during winter when leaving after a visit. the sanitation system handles it ok.
     
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  18. lewk
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    I have a 68 F250 I use for dump and recycling runs that I feed my used antifreeze to. The old 360 FE seems to make antifreeze disappear at an alarming rate. Eats fuel too.
     
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  19. jeffred
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    Paving companies have water in there rollers they can use the old antifreeze in there rollers in late fall so they save it
     
  20. I’ve never worn out any personally.
     
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  21. Beanscoot
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    I wash the cars on my front lawn... why waste the water when I can water the grass?
    The grass likes it, even with a small bit of detergent.
     
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  22. Working for a large municipality I saved all old antifreeze in a 55 gallon barrel. When it got full, I called the boss and asked what to do with it. He had someone come for it and told me from now on to pour it down the drain. He had contacted our sewer dept and they said to send it down the drain and they had a way to deal with it.
     
  23. Sharpone
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    From Nation Library of Medicine
    The fate, effects, and potential environmental risks of ethylene glycol (EG) in the environment were examined. EG undergoes rapid biodegradation in aerobic and anaerobic environments (approximately 100% removal of EG within 24 h to 28 days). In air, EG reacts with photo-chemically produced hydroxyl radicals with a resulting atmospheric half-life of 2 days. Acute toxicity values (LC(50)s and EC(50)s) were generally >10,000 mg/l for fish and aquatic invertebrates. The data collectively show that EG is not persistent in air, surface water, soil, or groundwater, is practically non-toxic to aquatic organisms, and does not bioaccumulate in aquatic organisms. Potential long-term, quasi-steady state regional concentrations of EG estimated with a multi-media model for air, water, soil, and sediment were all less than predicted no effect concentrations (PNECs).
    Dan
     
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  24. Sharpone
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    Also from the NIH
    Ethylene glycol is widely used as a raw material in industrial processes, and many of these processes discharge high-strength ethylene glycol wastewater (EG). Usually a biological process is suggested in treating EG, and good removal performance was achieved with an influent chemical oxygen demand (COD) range between 1000 and 3000 mg/L (Hassania et al. 2014). Despite this, an anaerobic treatment method is preferred due to its simplicity, reduced sludge production and lower power consumption. The formation of microbial granules is a key factor for successful operation of an anaerobic reactor; however, granule formation when treating EG fails to occur (Hulshoff Pol et al. 2004), thus EG treatment plants generally operate with a reduced organic loading rate (OLR).

    Again I would call your municipal waste water treatment center with any questions before disposing, adding a gallon or two to an average septic system should pose no problems.
    As far as pouring oil on the ground a small amount will be biodegraded by natural occurring microbes in soil, again solution by dilution works, in the city I wouldn’t pour oil on my soil.
    Both waste oil and ethylene glycol burn if you have a burn barrel or pit.
    Dan
     
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  25. fastcar1953
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    So I guess I dump it on the weeds them burn them. :D
     
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  26. Take it to Juffy Lube and drop it off.
     
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  28. atch
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    Thank you one and all for taking your time to consider this.

    HOWEVER; it's about time to close this thread. The same answers keep cropping up over and over.

    I'll take it to the City of Columbia site next time I go to town.
     
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  29. https://hrra.org/information-bridgewater/

    Looks like the Advanced Auto Parts in your town will accept a gallon at a time; just go in on five different dates.

    Alternatively, you could go to one of these drop-off events:

    https://hrra.org/household-hazardous-waste/
     
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  30. Not realy true. Deicing fluid is Propoline Glycol. The level of toxicacity is much lower the etgholine glycol.
     

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