Later when it gets warmer... how do I fill the trim holes and other holes semi-perminately? Now... After... Because I may want to do this later...
I used oxy acetelene torches and filler, but that took a long time, i would suggest a mig welder! then skim some filler over it and your all set! nate
[ QUOTE ] I used oxy acetelene torches and filler, but that took a long time, i would suggest a mig welder! then skim some filler over it and your all set! nate [/ QUOTE ] Since I am welderless and no welding knowledge, I was wondering what other alternatives I have. As far as changing it, dunno, have always liked the black/blue....been on my mind since I bought my first 56. However, I may have to buy another 56 so I have both
I wouldnt do this, but you could get longhair fiberglass and fill it? Try to find a friend with a welder? nate
Duct tape. Permanent is just that,permanant. Kinda like being pregnant.There is no sort of. If it was welded properly,and you REALLY wanted the chrome back, you could redo all the holes with a drill and die grinder.
Just bolt some cheap stars in all the holes and name the car "The Constellation" untill you get around to doing the BelAir trim and two tone (Yes, I'm serious...)
Get some filler with fibres in it and do a good job, clean back side and leave a decent amount of fibre/filler (little bump) on the backside....Mine were done 6 years ago, gets driven on rough roads everyday andnot a crack or pop out ever..... Cheers
On a 48 ply. biz cp, Im going to try small carriage bolts.should give it that riveted look,So If I wanted to hang the stainless back on, they are there. A little different, but reversable. Waterboy
Believe me! It is more economical to do it the way you want to in the first place. Just costs money to do it over. My advice for anyone is to do it your way and do it only once. Jim
You could use those visibolts in every second hole and carriage bolts. You wouldn't lose your car at night then. Seriously, if you used that kitty hair filler with a small piece of door screen for backing, you could knock them out later
ok weld it if you ever want to reuse the holes again drill them out. if you dont have a welder use metal to metal filler it hardens like steel.first you wanna find the girls holes you wanna fill .then you make sure shes real clean .then mix it up for a min of longer if you feel its a must .then go back in the garage and work on something for a while .well you no the rest sand it befor it fully hardens or itll be hell the next day
cut up a screen door and use the bits on the back of the holes to hold the bondo . that way the filler wont fall out as quickly . It is a cheap and hack way to do it , but there isnt really any good way to temporarily fill holes . And for what its worth the first version is way cooler than just another resto looking , tri-five street racer .
I'm not sure what you mean by semi-permanent,but if you're going to do something do it right. I can't believe some of the suggestions that I am reading. Either get a welder, or borrow, or maybe even rent one. It will depend on the size of the holes you want to fill. If they are small badge holes you can actually use a rosin core solder, and a soldering iron, as long as you neutralize the acid afterwords. For small trim holes they can just be welded up, for larger trim holes you'll want a plug to fill the hole, then tack it in. But again if you're not sure what you want it would be more cost efficient, and easier on yourself to just leave the trim on.
I usually start with" Can I buy you a drink?". followed by" What's your sign?" But on a car there is no temporary solution. Often times what starts out as temporary ends up being semiperminant (nothings perminant). Do the best job you can with what you have or can barrow assuming it will be forever. Hell, you're a car guy, you can fix anything. Good luck
Heres an Idea......a friend of mine did this on a 56 he was painting and it looks great.He put all that Bel-Air trim back on and scuffed it all so it could be painted.He two toned the car painting the trim by each color the same as its surrounding color.it eliminates the worry and work related to doing the obviously scary to you- welding....and it doesn't look like an original 4 door either.........you could flake the top color and use another contrasting color on lower half or "suede" the lower with the flaked top half...BESIDES-if you dechrome that one color 4 dr, it will look a whole lot like a Checker cab.
i dig the fucking hell out of the dark blue with flames image, and i'd weld the holes. using a MIG is pretty easy, too. but i tell you what, if i wasn't the son of an art foundry owner, it would be siginifacntly more difficult to do that on the shitty pay that i make substitute teaching while i try my heart out to get a real teaching job. my old man taught me to weld and let's me use his equipment. i'm a lucky guy. if you can rent a MIG, and can afford it, go for it. i agree with that, but... the thing i don't get is, and i'm honestly asking this in case there is a large factor i am not counting when comparing the pros and cons of doing it low-buck and temporary now when money is tight, and doing it right for more money later. NOT trying to start ANY shit, what is the big deal if a guy can't afford to weld it, and uses glass or other filler to fill the holes if he is going to do a low-cost suede paint job on it? i, and the rest of us, all know it isn't going to last forever, as the largest downfall of this method that i can see, but if the paint is a "kinda cool, it'll look pretty good, be a TON of fun for a while on very little money" kinda thing, who cares if the glass cracks away in a couple of years? two years might be all that is necessary to get more established, get some tools, get some experience, etc, and THEN be able to go back over the car and do it right. i'm down with the do it right the first time idea, and am totally trying to do that with my car, but man, money's a motherfucker, sometimes we can't do it right like that right away. i really am interested in hearing about any other major pitfalls asociated with half-assing the trim holes for now, other than the future cracking and falling out thing. if glassing some small holes is ruled out, you could possibly alter the photochopped iplan a bit, utilize the trim and stick to that scheme. paint the roof white, like in the image, but only paint the area outside of the trim spear dark blue. paint that inside of the trim spear (rear quarters, trunk, etc) the light blue. inside of each, have seaweed flames, or scallops or something in the other color (light flames on dark body color, or dark flames on light color), with the purple pinstriping. not sure what it would look like, but maybe it's a good solution to the debate. i dunno.
On my 55 S2D I used some 100mph tape, the thin metal with adhesive backing. Went after a piece with a hole punch to cover the trim holes when it rained. ended up shooting the primer over them and they are still there. TZ
Is this ANTI-TECH WEEK ? rent or borrow a fuckin' welder and get to work. How and the hell do you ever expect to do anything right when you half ass it. You will never learn to weld if you just take this attitude. JUST DO IT MAN ! And when you get stuck and have questions about the proper way..get on here and we will help you. Semi-permanent my ass. Yes.. its my time of the month
[ QUOTE ] Yes.. its my time of the month [/ QUOTE ]\ your killing me ps. miss the dancing bear avatar...will he make a comeback?
The problem with welding up the holes NOW is all that mud AROUND the trim holes, right CLSSY56? Unless he's going to grind all that out, and start over, he's already committed to a certain path. If I had a welder, you could come up here for a weekend, and we could weld them up. I've never welded sheet metal before, but you gotta start somewhere... That is a kick ass design though. You should definitely DO IT!
Yes there is mud around the rear 1/4 holes. I'd rather mud the other holes and do a temp job to see if I like it in person. I'm also not sure if I'd like the idea of no door handles (I have never seen any upclose and I don't know how they work....back then... still trying to keep period as much as I can). I'm wanting to try things out before I commit to a paint job. Shoot, it took me a few days to make it flat black, but now I think my previous design would not look good. You guys are basically telling me to bite the bullet and weld up the holes..... but what happens if I don't like it, then I have more work to redrill the holes. See what I am saying. I'm thinking this may become "phases" to be dertimined on how much money I have, but that's not difinate either...
CLSY56, My pickup came with a visor. Personally, I think that visors are for JC Whitney-style, accessories-to-the-max trucks only. So I removed the visor, leaving eight screw holes behind. I found a used 110V Lincoln MIG welder on eBay for less than $150. Since I'd never welded sheetmetal before, I drilled a bunch of holes in a metal snow shovel and filled 'em back up and grinded 'em smooth. The holes in the truck were easy after the practice. My point is, don't fear the welder. Even a novice like myself can figure out MIG welding. They're not prohibitively expensive either. I'm supporting my fiance and daughter on my income alone, so I can appreciate your financial situation. Like Kanter says, "Do it once and do it right." Ed
[ QUOTE ] You guys are basically telling me to bite the bullet and weld up the holes..... but what happens if I don't like it [/ QUOTE ] Not to be harsh dude, but shit or get off the pot. If you've really got to try it out first, put black electrical tape over the holes and step back ten feet. Ed
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