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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Deuce Daddy Don, Dec 6, 2008.

  1. Cyclone Kevin
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    But what is original on that car????? The dash isn't, the chassis was replaced by Ca. Street Rods when Mrs. Lovesee owned it. Some sheet metal was replaced as was the hood and grille, and Ford never produced their bodies, Their suppliers did which brings to mind Budd,Briggs & Murray.;)

    Same goes for the Edelbrock car, It's not on it's original chassis and sheet metal of course was replaced as well. :D

    Both of the example cars were restored by a very well known shop. They used Brookville "replacement"panels:p I bought a chassis that came out from under a 90 point dearborn winner that originated from the same shop thru Jake and his pal Sheldon Bardin @ a V8 Club Swap.

    That truly was the most original chassis that I have ever seen. When I took our speed equipment for the QC article that appeared in TRJ#26, I stopped off @ the shop to see what the body looked like that came off the chassis that I now owned, I have film of it and to say that it was halved with either another roadster or even a coupe would be an understatement When stripped, all scars showed.

    I know that it too got replacement panels because the cost to metal finish the entire body would far exceed its then value. So how much of that original "real roadster" is "real":confused: That's the whole reason why the customer purchased the 32 because he wanted a "real" body. Wow, what an expensive lesson:eek:,

    I forgot about another "real" 32 that used to be local, Jake's black one, Don't know if he has gotten back on it,last time I saw it was 11 yrs ago.

    Both the Mc Gee and the Doane car have replacement sheet metal in order to reverse their mods over the course of time. Both of those cars are drop dead gorgeous!
     
  2. Deuce Daddy Don
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    No, Roadsterman, no other queries on anything but my original question, since I am a dyed in wool roadster guy--------even at 76!!!!--------------Don
     
  3. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Somehow, Randy, I knew you were chomping at the bit--------LOL-------------Don
     
  4. Deuce Daddy Don
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    B.A.KING-----Briggs was the BODY manufacturer for FORD, not only for 1932 models, but also for many model A's from 1928-1931.----------------Don
     
  5. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Ok,---enough of all the sidetrack stuff---Lets get back to my "GENNIE" question---"Original 1932 roadster bodies--frames--dash--gastank--hood---grill--running boards--radiator shell & emblem--headlight bar--trunk lid/rumble seat--NO AFTER MARKET SHEET METAL!!!-----------Don:D:D
     
  6. So, everything on your car is 32?

    Ceptin' for the SBC....
     
  7. 32 Barn Car
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    My Roadster has a patch panel , lower left 1/4 , so I will need to withdraw my post as having a real 32 Roadster ?.............Z.D.
     
  8. Deuce Daddy Don
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    You are absolutely correct!!----Only FINISHED open cars are allowed to be put on display for the public to admire!! As a past president of LAR, I can tell you thats the way its been & thats the way it will always be!!
    Sold your car at a prestigious event didn't you?-----------Don:)
     
  9. Deuce Daddy Don
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    You said it ALL Randy!!---Although some guys get "off track" a wee bit!!-----------Don:D:D:D
     
  10. EVANS and 3 97s
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    I have one and can think of seven other real 32 roadsters in St Louis,not counting restorers.
     
  11. Acme Speed Shop
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    Mine when I got it........

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    and when I got it back (from Steve at LimeWorks)

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  12. R&C Lee
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    One more real one (chassis, body, running boards, bumpers, hood and fenders)
     

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  13. 32 Barn Car
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    I would not feel too bad if I were you . A few years ago they turned away Ed Iskenderian driving his High School built "T" Roadster because it didn't meet the high standards they have . Might not have been enough room with all those Roadsters that look like Mars Probe vehicles they let in?.......
     
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  14. Jeem
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    This has been in your family for a while, right, Kevin?

    I love it!....uhhh, when are you going to lower it though?!
     
  15. TimDavis
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    This one belong to a local guy here in FL - Del Clark - 100% Ford sheetmetal. The car had two pinholes in the bottom of the cowl - and the cowl vent is from a Tudor I had a while back. Honduras Maroon.
     

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  16. jpbanjo
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    Here's my old beater that's been in the family for over fifty years. It's a first month of production four banger delux roadster that I rodded in the fifties, first with a 296 inch flathead then a Nailhead. The body has never been off the frame but I had to replace the front fenders, windshield and tailpan due to rust out.
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    Originals are neat because they have history but repos are usually better and more practical. I was gong to put a small sign on mine that said " Brookville Roadsters has asked me to to please inform people that this is NOT a Brookville body" The originals always cracked behind the doors where the body is cutout for the wood tack strip, the doors sag outward at the bottom and usually cracked out around the hinges and the whole setup rattles enough to bring back that famous "old car feel" from the fifties and sixties.

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    This was my pride and joy back in 1960 at a car show. Some where aroud 1964 my life changed, everyone else went drag racing and the car went into storage. Some time around 1998 the time the place and the money all came together at one time and I dragged it out of storage and put it on the road again. It still has the original NOS cracks, door sags and rattles and my butt still fits the original sagging seat but I can be 25 years old again, however briefly, while out for a cruise.

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    The old beater and I make it Dearborn for the 75th Anniversary, both growing older together.
     
  17. HELLMET
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    Don waite in temple city has his og roadster from the fortys its all painted real nice now .when i worked for john carambia it was redone in 2002 . Not many people have seen it. It also had a og bob lee top.tom sewell re did the the ulpolstry in the car also and made an bob lee style top for it. Billy
     
  18. firingorder1
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    The minutes from the Road Runners meeting of March 17 1941 had Vic Edelbrock "attempting to define what a roadster is". I see a lot of progress hasn't been made!
     
  19. My wife's restored Model B Roadster

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  20. R&C Lee
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    Since 1958. Can't lower any more with the unsplit wishbone with the current suspension. It sits better now as that photo was with 5.00/5.25 tires up front, I've swapped 6.00 on it now.
     
  21. tikidiablo
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    Lee is this the car you took to the movie night at the Mission Tiki drive -in a couple of years ago? She's a beaut!
     
  22. R&C Lee
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    Same one. We had a great time out there, thanks
     
  23. Tom Branch
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    Wow! Those are some really strict standards!

    I guess your roadster is not going to make the list, seeing as how it's got an aftermarket hood on it!

    Aftermarket grille insert too..

    Where's your radiator shell emblem?

    Is that an aftermarket headlight bar too?

    Damn Hot Rodders!
     
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  24. This tread went to shit... of cource.

    Only thing repro on my car are the tires, and kingpins... Oh, and the hub caps.
     
  25. alchemy
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    I can speak of a couple original roadster bodies (no Brookville panels) in my town. But, BODIES only, not assembled cars.

    Mine is all apart and needing patch panels, but it can be put back together eventually. The cowl is from a different car than the quarters, and the doors came from another source. As a matter of fact, I also have four extra doors, and chunks of four extra quarters that probably all came from separate cars as well. So this pile probably accounts for seven bodies out of the roadster population.

    I assembled a body for a restorer in town from at least three different chunks. So there is another three bodies from the population.

    So, in my little town, we have two bodies accounted for, made from ten "donors". That's a 20 percent survival rate. Using this logic, I'd surmise that of the original 12,000 produced, only 2,400 still survive. Anybody argue with that?

    I personally know of two more original bodies about an hour away from me, but one of them was imported from Australia. And the Aussie body used a bunch of donor parts to make it more "American".
     
  26. Dick Dake
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    I would guess if no patch panels or anything, none?
     
  27. scarylarry
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    Well, I'm out. Just an original patched up body, not good enough for this deal.
     
  28. DrJ
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    The only thing REAL hotrodders care about a REAL hotrod is the numbers on the REAL race timing slip. :cool:

    Last time I checked this was not an all-original-only car collector/restorer site so who here should care?
     
  29. MIKE-3137
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    Just enjoy them for what they are regardless of purity or pedigree. I hate to think what it will be like in a few decades, when there will likely be many brookvilles with a few original parts added to make them more authentic or valuable being passed off as originals, some will likely have fabricated history to match. By that time, I wonder how many will know or remember which were 100% original and which were not. Or maybe by that time someone will be making perfect copies. And what percentage of repair panels on an original body makes it no longer an original? .

    I've got a few brookville panels on my A roadster thanks to Katrina, Real, half real, whatever, I just like driving it.
     
  30. Dick Dake
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    What if you have a patch panel from pre 1964, is it still traditional?
     

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