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How to bribe a crusty old f*cker into selling his ride?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by graverobber63, Mar 18, 2005.

  1. rustywrench
    Joined: Feb 25, 2005
    Posts: 253

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    Yeah thats it, just keep tabs on it.....things change. I wouldn't let a year go by though! Once a month, whatever. Gotta tell the COFs that if they ever even think of selling the car to call and we'll work somethin out. Allright maybe you dont have to mow the guys lawn or bring in his garbage pails. Just be nice to the guy though. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Blownolds
    Joined: Mar 31, 2001
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    from So Cal

    Two thoughts:

    1) Ever think about befriending him just to be his friend, and not because of the car?

    2) Ever think that a big part of the reason we still have jewels turn up, is because someone has had them rat-holed for a while? That car will eventually see the light of day, it's not going anywhere.
     
  3. I go pogo
    Joined: Apr 22, 2003
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    You Don't. you ask him to tell you about his car, then you ask him if he ever will want to get it back on the road and if he would then please give you a call because you would love to help him do it. Then when he does, help him. If you are not willing to do that then you don't want the car. Then if that don't work bring a hot 19 year old girl over to jump his bones. that allways works for me. Pogo
     
  4. I can relate to the old guy. I have had tons of old cars. Pretty much every body style I would have liked to have built. I have sold them all over the years. On the other hand I have my T-tub that I have owned and worked on for 25 years. Will I ever sell it. NO. There is no amount of money that would make me part with it. Is it worth a lot? I doubt it. Doesn't matter, no amount of money could buy it. I would put it in my rec room and just enjoy looking at it. It is my ultimate hot rod. I may give it to my daughter next year, she is 30 and loves the car as much as me. But she would never sell it either as it means as much to her as me. The thing is, money isn't everything. I can always get money, but I can't replace that car. Pat.
     
  5. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    Model A's?

    Nomads?

    52 PYLMOUTHS!!!!?

    Cars.com,Hemmings,Auto Trader?

    Read these! There are people that wanna sell their stuff. You bring the money haggle a little and take the jewel HOME!!

    Honest there are folks that wanna SELL their stuff.

    Now if your talking about something they made one of....Take your time

    'They only built 6000 of these in a blue 4 door with the TWISTED GRABBER OPTION' or Better yet!! "In three years it'll be an ANTIQUE!!" At those I take my money and time and do something else

    Take your time and energy to find history.....not someone else's dream

    Elmo Lincoln's 29 Chevy is just a 29 Chevy....even if he was Tarzan!
     
  6. Mojo
    Joined: Jul 23, 2002
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    For what it's worth, the guy who built and owns the Chevado Nomad pictured above use to be a HAMB member, he showed up about a year or two ago, haven't read much from him since. I can't recall his user name though. I picked his brain about the drivetrain layout (i'm obsessive about eldo setups), he'd tell a lot, but not everything.. some secrets are best kept I figure.

    Several years ago I found a yard with several old Willys jeeps, and one 38 Willys coupe. One of my all time favorite cars. Old fella there was a nice guy, well on in years. I tried to buy it, but I was broke, and offered every penny of my money, $400 for it. He showed me a note someone had left him, with a phone number and a standing offer of $5000 for it. This thing was all there, missing only the tail-lights, but was a rust bucket. I was in that area about a year later, stopped by, still wasn't for sale. I tried to talk him into getting running (it had been in his yard since 1950) to at least drive around the yard a bit. That actually got to him, got him interested in the car as a car, not as a chunk of money (or notoriety) sitting there. Anyhow, it was gone the next year, looks like mister 5k got her. He probably prostreeted it, and painted it pink...

    One other thing, my uncle is a crazy old man that won't sell too. He has a 69 AMX that is a complete rustout, a real POS. He's been offered 3k for it before, and won't sell. It's not about the money (and he needs it bad), it's about his wasted youth when he hot-rodded it. Better to have, than want it back...
     
  7. kritz
    Joined: Aug 6, 2003
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    from flint, mi

    this guy has probably heard every "i want to buy your car" pitch known to man...why would he want to hear it again...???

    i'm sure this guy is no fool, so why try to fool yourself into thinking he is...i'm sure that he in no way wants to deal with someone who just wants to bamboozle him out of his "baby".

    has anyone actually showed interest in the car for what is was and is to the owner...sure everyone wants to buy it, but has anyone expressed interest in the history of the car??? why not approach the guy and show interest in more than just buying it...listen to his stories, hear about the good times he had with it...learn from him, and show interest in him, not just his car.
    the old feller is probably DYING to share some of his tales from back in his hay-day. let him know that you are considering building/ restoring a similar car, and that you really love the history behind some of these old cars...
    hell even offer to help him work on it just so it can see the light of day again.
    just don't ask the guy to buy it...if he sees that you are truly interested in preserving the history and legacy of his car, then maybe his attitude will change....or remember you sharing the passion for his car as he's writing his will...

    if nothing else, you may walk away from it making this guys year by showing some interest in him AND his car.
    not to mention a friend, some good stories, or some long lost knowledge...
     
  8. TINGLER
    Joined: Nov 6, 2002
    Posts: 3,410

    TINGLER

    Don't approach the ol' guy at all.
    Just set fire to the shack that the car is stored in. Your philosophy should be If you can't have it, then nobody should have it.

    Watch it burn and then laugh in the ol' coot's face while he's blubbering and crying about his precious car...

    Spite, hatred, treachery, and violence....thats the only way to get anything done nowdays.





    .....or you could just forget about it and move on. :D
     
  9. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    OK, I've read all the replies to the original post and it looks like a 50-50 split on this deal. Fifty percent of you get it the other half are too young to understand, and are lacking in respect for others and their possessions. Just because someone has something you want and won't sell is no reason to call them derogatory names. You don't have to drive a car to enjoy it, HAVING it is what makes us happy. Leave the guy alone and let him enjoy his car.
     
  10. Slag Kustom
    Joined: May 10, 2004
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    tell me this ? Do you have your first car ? What would it take for you to sell it.


    if some old crusty guy has a car and wont sell it you will never be able to buy the car. you have to try and buy his memories of what it stands for. wheather it is telling the guy you will keep it how it is and let him drive it when it is on the road again or tell him how you had the same car as your first. make them think it has as much meaning to you as it means to them.

    I have had people give me cars because of how i made them feel and not want to sell it to some one wanting to make it there own.


    just think of the pureist that you would go buy a restored model a from and tell him your going to cut it up and make a hot rod out of it.
     
  11. I have known about this car for years,,,a lot of people have tried to buy it,,,,and I know of one guy that came with a pocket full of money,,,and Hoss told him that he didn't like his smart ass talk about gonna buy this 32 from the minute he got outta the car,,,,,,It ain't for sale!

    It's his car,,, it hasn't run in years,,,,,,,,,I made it a point that he knows I would like to buy it or trade my 32 mor-door even for it,,,,,,

    I have become friends with him over the years,,,,,and i'm afraid the cars will be bought at an estate auction,,,,,,,,,,,he has been to enough estate auctions to realize not all cars go cheap.

    The problem with guys like him is money doesn't mean anything to him,,,,he is single,,his place is paid for,,all his cars are paid for,,and he has a salvage business and works all the time.

    I don't think I will ever be lucky enough to get my hands on the 3-window but as long as he is alive I can keep in touch and be a friend! :D HRP
     
  12. djmartins
    Joined: Feb 11, 2005
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    I say there is one even better.
    Talk to the guy and find out why he loves that car so much.
    I bet there are some really good stories to be heard.

    Then, go find yourself a Nomad that is FOR SALE.
    If you really have to have one, go find one you can buy and stop annoying the poor guy.
    They are out there.
    Sure, they cost some big money.
    This one is actually priceless to the owner, you can't afford it.

    I too get rather annoyed sometimes by people constantly trying to buy my cars.
    I use them as daily drivers.
    No, I won't sell it for $500.00, since I paid thousands for it plus my work.
    I often put a sign with a really high price on a car when too many people think they can steal it from me and I get tired of it.
    I want to drive the thing!
    Sometimes it stops people, other times I get the assholes who just have to tell me how crazy I am and how that car isn't worth anywhere near that much!
    When they are particularly nasty, I tell then the sign is to keep assholes from bothering me, but there are some assholes who are too stupid to get it.
    I had one guy start pawing through my Mustang when I parked it somewhere that people had signs on cars for sale looking for a car for my wife.
    This guy started opening everything up and going through the car even though the windows were down, a soda near the seat, and no FOR SALE sign.
    I almost went over to his truck and popped the hood, but didn't want to upset my wife if it got nasty.
    Next time I see him I will, though.

    :D

    regards,
    Doug
     
  13. labelkills
    Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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    This guy was probably as nice as anyone of us would be at one time,(how ever nice that is) but after a while it wears on your ability to be friendly. this guy has probably been feed up with the bamboozlers for years. Some people you have to treat like that, then the others just in case.
    I think the guy is still a hot rodder and thats your problem he still likes the car and wants it. So wait till the estate sale, but that shit will be haunted.

    That would be weird to buy a Buick Estate Wagon at an estate sale
    or maybe that is just stupid. forget I wrote that.
    Yeah I know there is a delete key. But it is at the top of the key board and I am pretty lazy. Yeah I also know I could easily have deleted it with the effort I used for this explanation this is stupid I am done
    ---Daniel
     
  14. Mutt
    Joined: Feb 6, 2003
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    I've got a '32 3 window that was rodded in the '50's, and a '40 Willys gasser sitting in my garage. They're not for sale. I'm about to turn 61 and am considered a crusty old fart.

    However, if you want to cut my grass, clean my gutters, and scoop out my cat's litter box, I'll talk to you about them.
    If you bring your hardbody nubial 20-something girlfriend to rub me in the appropriate place, I'll let you sit in them and make zoom-zoom noises.
    If she is really hot, and wants to see an old man wheeze and gasp in ecstasy due to gratification not felt for years, while rolling around like a monster with two backs, I'll give you a price that it will take to buy it - when I'm ready to sell.
    That may not happen for another ten years or so, but if you keep bringing her back, it could shorten the time to get the car. I DO have a bad heart.....:eek:

    You kids are funny.:p


    Mutt
     
  15. Rand Man
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
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    Leave him alone and build your own Nomad. Maybe the car is the only thing he was able to keep in his divorce. Selling the car could be a sign the bitch finally beat him. No amount of cash laying on the table can be woth more than the memories of good times long gone.

    Build you own car and your own memories. Then wait and see how you feel when a mean-spirited woman (or some young dumb smartass) tries to take it from you.
     
  16. Hell-Mutt- thats some funny shit!
    You know -RESPECT- is more than an Aretha Franklin song title..........:)
    It seems to be a rare commodity nowadays.
    IT HAS SOME INTERESTING QUALITIES:
    It is something that ,although it costs nothing -it can't be bought.
    It also cant be earned unless you already have it.......But at the same time you can give it without ever really having been given it yourself! STRANGE HUH?:rolleyes:
     
  17. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
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    from Burton, MI

    I like the Jerky Boys method.
    Grab him by the neck and scream at him while shovin' his head into the hood.
    "You fuckin sell me this fuckin' car right now, Toughguy!!"
    You might have to fix the hood but it works really well.
     
  18. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
    Posts: 5,062

    sodbuster
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    from Kansas

  19. caddyman65
    Joined: Feb 23, 2003
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    Damn funny:D Why not get him hooked on crack,in 6 months he`ll be ready to sell everything
     
  20. Mutt, that's freakin' great!-MIKE:D :D :D
     
  21. TagMan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2002
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    Really ? Shit like this pisses you off ? Too bad! Get over it and, if you can possibly can, try and see something from somebody else's view point - maybe the "Crusty Old Fucker" got that way because of spoiled, disrepectful kids that think they should be able to have everything they want, when the want it, keep bothering the guy. WTF makes YOU think YOU deserve the car just because the guy that owns it isn't doing what YOU think he should be doing with it? Does the world REALLY revolve around you?

    Guy won't sell it and you get frustrated, so you think you ought to steal it? Yeah, that's a good idea - try stealing it and find out just how crusty the old fucker REALLY is and maybe how good a shot he is, too.

    Shit like this pisses you off? Too fucking bad !! It's HIS car to do with as he wants. :mad:
     
  22. 61Lancerwagon
    Joined: Feb 18, 2005
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    That's what I was going to say.
     
  23. k9racer
    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
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    I had a older gentleman tell me that if he sold the old Ford no one would stop by and talk to him. He enjoyed the company and liked to talk to every one.He has promised it to about 12 different people when he dies.
     
  24. koolkemp
    Joined: May 7, 2004
    Posts: 6,006

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    Is this a local car Adamo?? I dont remember ever hearin about it let alone seein it...Mr Fink would remember it for sure ,prolly be able to tell me the license plate # too ,LOL!! Ah quit sweatin it you gotta finish your wagon and that will put you in the poorhouse anyways! I think its one of those situations where the ol lad wants to keep some memories and dreams alive,the money dont mean shit to him,but the car does,at least its under cover and protected .SOMEDAY it will get a new caretaker,maybe his kids,and it will see the light of day again.If he didnt care about the car it would be sittin up to the rockers in the wet ground like most stuff around here.I bet he has some real interesting stories to tell about that car,they should be listened to before its too late.........


    Koolkemp
     
  25. Ya might just try makin' friends with the old guy.
    Even if you don't end up with the car you've made a friend.

    Somethin' you might also bare in mind is even though it puts a stone in your craw, it is his ride afterall and he should be able to keep it in the garage if he wants. Face it it isn't the olny Nomad ever built, if you need one that bad get out there and find one.
     
  26. TxRat
    Joined: Dec 22, 2004
    Posts: 1,412

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    Damn , You guys been to my dads house. We have a 57 Nomad that has been in our family as long as I have. Over 30 years to be exact. I drove to highschool and some after.

    My dads been hit up a few times to sell but always gives the same answer "I'm gonna fix it up someday".

    Its got more sentimental value than anything else,Plus its just a damn cool car

    My dad is in his 60's and pretty tight on funds but we got talking about the car the other day and he's getting ready to revive it.

    57 nomad w/327 out of one of his old dirt cars slotted mags and 60's upolstery done by my Grandmother.

    needless to say I had one of the baddest cars at school.

    Maybe that old car has some of the same memories for him as this one does for my dad.

    dad is a member of this site but probably wont post anything so I will for him....

    (telling it from the other side of the fence)
     
  27. screwball
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
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    adamo there is a 32 three window sitting in a field in Morrisburg you cant have eather the guy also has a model a coupe and a few others he is allowing to turn into iron ore what can you do get over it .
     
  28. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
    Posts: 5,062

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    from Kansas

    Here is a story that will make you think also from "bobbleed" and Buzz........

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33384

    I agree with Ryan from another post........would HAMB guys really speak to each other if they were face to face in the garage? Kinda' like alot of post's lately.

    Chris Nelson
    Kansas
     
  29. Spike!
    Joined: Nov 22, 2001
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    My neighbor has a 30's roadster in his garage that was built in California and driven cross country in 1973. still has the '73 tags on it. I discovered it by accident while looking for a ball my son kicked in the bushes. I looked through the back window of the garage (which actually lines our properties) and there it was. I imediately ran over to his house and knocked on his door to ask about the car. His response? Slammed the door in my face. I stood there for awhile, thinking he was coming back. He didn't, so I went back to my yard. The next day the windows in his garage were covered over so I couldn't look in. Over the years I would say "hi" and I would give him a CKD mag when the new issue came out. He would take them and smile. It took five years before he would let me see the car, or even open the garage door. Then one day his sons came over and they actually rolled it out. freed up the brakes and got her running. I have pictures somewhere. That was a huge step for him. Since then the car hasn't been out of his barn and I don't ask about it. Why? Respect. I figure theres a reason he feels the way he does, and his respect means more to me than the car. Do I want the car? I guess I would like it, but not that way. Not by conning an old man from whats his. I'm just glad the guy still talks to me and is a good neighbor! Every time I fire up the Triumph or Buick I see him looking out the window. He still has some kind of gas running through his veins and that roadster may be all he has left to remind him of that. I would never take that away. The guy has some funny/interesting stories and I'm happy just to listen. I respect the guy.

    Spike
     
  30. TagMan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2002
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    Spike,
    I'd welcome you as my neighbor any time !!
     

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