How Will I get This Big Engine Into That Little Space?

The marine adapter looks just like the one GTSDave has pictured above. Id sure appreciate if you could come up with a pic on a DCPD#. Thanks!

 

Here's a couple pictures.

The greenish one on the left is from a 1963ish 361 industrial engine from a V100 Armored Personnel Carrier. That pump uses a cover with a casting number of 2121092, and it has an (additional) oil filter pressure relief valve built into it.

The orange one in the middle is from a 1969 383 industrial engine from an unknown application. It uses a cover casting number 1947058 which does not have an oil filter relief valve in it, so there must be one in the oil filter used with this part.

The pump on the right is a typical HV car oil pump.

 

Thanks for that!

I called an industrial engine specialist that google turned up this morning, and was told by a very impatient fellow that there was no such thing as a Chrysler big block industrial engine, so there couldn't possibly be...The items you pictured above. If I knew the ahole's name I'd copy your pic and send it to him.

FWIW, and for anyone researching this in the future, The Milodon 21210 did do the exact job we're talking about, but they discontinued it (apparently without ever getting a photo of it onto their web site).

The good news is Milodon replaced it with the #21225 which is a billet-carved version for the same application (the 21210 was cast). Oh, and the 21225 also costs almost twice as much at $220-ish. Here's a pic:


I'd still do it for that price if I was convinced it would save me cutting the frame, but to use this you'd plumb to the 2 ports to the left, and cap the one on the right. My problem is those 2 ports would still be awfully close to the crossmember. As of right now I think I'm using a less expensive adapter from Canton Racing

and (sigh) cutting the frame after all.

 

Not much of a specialist after all... Tell that guy to look at any 1960's Chrysler Industrial engines Manual and read off the engine models (by then, their displacement is part of the model number).

I'll see if I can shoot ya a picture of one of my B-engines with a Chrysler Industrial data plate on it...

 

You can avoid cutting the frame with this cover.

Cap all three existing ports and drill & tap two new ones in the face that will intersect with the two ports on the left side. It will actually flow better that way. You will see once you flip this part over and see the back side.

 

BTW, give the bottom pulleys enough room to be able to remove and
replace the V-belts.
As for 90* angles in oil passages, I agree. They should NOT exist in a lubrication system. However, almost all production automotive engines are drilled with 90* oil gallery intersections! The most restrictive (especially at high RPM) is the 45* dog-leg at the rear of the SBC block.

 

Have you heard back from AndyF on the Moparts board? The cover plate is not all that complicated, design wise...have you considered making your own?

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Not room enough for the 2" Wix 51335 filter?

 

For the jackwagon that told you Chrysler never made any big block Industrial engines...

 

I would never use that oil filter on any of my engines - half the height means that there's half the media available for oil to flow through. Result is that it will bypass more than the standard filter.

 

Why? Oil goes in & oil goes out, it don't know how much oil is in. You'd just have to change filters more often.

 

On a '47 windsor the 440 was set back @ 4". The remote filter pictures show how it moved to the right of the frame. I like your cross member idea too . Your car looks great, good luck.