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Hot Rods Hydraulic tailgate?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by nadodave, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. nadodave
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    I was thinking it would be fun to make the tailgate on my panel electro-hydraulic. That said, I have no idea of who to contact about that, except possibly for the low-rider crowd who seem to be able to make anything hydraulic. Any leads on how to get this done?

    Thanks
     
  2. Boneyard51
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    Might be easier with an electric actuater. Maybe.



    Bones
     
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  3. You could do it with hydraulics, but then you would need a pump lines ram etc etc.

    Easier with electric
    With a linear actuator , I have used power window motors in the past to make a secret compartment in the trunk .

    Look at newer suvs and minivans with the power tailgate feature.

    You will need limit switches for open and close and some kind of anti trap wired up
    So no one gets there pink bits trapped and or worse!
     
  4. Blues4U
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    Are hydraulics considered traditional?
     
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  5. BJR
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    All the early power windows were hydraulic, so yes.:)
     
  6. Blues4U
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    Anyone hydraulic tail gates that you know of? Just because the technology existed doesn't mean it's traditional.
     
  7. gimpyshotrods
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    Won't matter.

    Even if someone posts examples, some folks here will not accept what they see.

    We've been all over this ground before.

    The horse is long dead.
     
  8. Look up a tommy gate or lift. Then make your own.

    Wait are you talking about a lift gate type thing or just opening them.....like show cars?.
     
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  9. Ebbsspeed
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    I have an electric trim pump, a pair of cylinders, and a distribution block all from a 19' Wellfleet boat laying on my garage floor right now. It has everything you'd need as far as the hydraulic components are concerned. I suspect there are boat salvage places in your part of the county where you could find the same stuff. Or I'll sell you this setup. 20190201_134733_resized.jpg 20190201_134749_resized.jpg
     
  10. Hnstray
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    Yep.....also power seats and convertible tops........all well within the ‘traditional period’
     
  11. Look on your local classified for a “power walkie”
    Will come with all the hydraulics you would need to do this and you could get them fairly cheap
    Or check out any independent forklift repair places around you. They usually get old shitters as trade ins

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  12. Hnstray
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    The electric or hydraulic power unit is only part of the equation. It is important to consider whether they are exposed longer cylinders or concealed in the body structure. The difference being the kind of hinges and leverages being applied. The strength of the components will vary with those choices.
     
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  13. My tailgate used electrical impulses to actuate a lifting arm.

    Sometimes that same process picks my nose
     
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  14. What is going on with the rest of the truck?
     
  15. nadodave
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    I was just thinking of having power assisted opening. Doesn’t have to be hydraulic.
     
  16. nadodave
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    Wow! How much?
     
  17. nadodave
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    Thanks for asking! Here is a brief rundown: and 700R4 installed along with the front suspension from a 71 c10 for the disc brakes. All new wiring. New aluminum radiator and electric fan. Silverado seats, Silverado steering column, jambs are painted, clamshell installed. New exhaust. Truck is presently having the motor fine tuned, and the trans linkage fixed. New wood floor. Paint and interior when I get it back. Gettin anxious :)
     
  18. Mr48chev
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    That trim tab setup may not be up to the load though. All they do is raise and lower a couple of aluminum or stainless plates at the back of the boat that probably don't weigh 10 lbs each or at least they don't on my Bayliner. Kind of like wheelie bars for a boat in that they keep the boat at the best angle in the water for the best performance.
     
  19. Ebbsspeed
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    This is a setup that does not move trim tabs. It actually moves the outdrive to change the angle respective to the boat centerline. Under full power it takes one hell of a lot of force to push the outdrive away from the transom. See image below...

    Here are the facts: It is a 2000PSI pump with a pair of 1.5 inch cylinders. A 1.5 inch cylinder has a piston area of 1.77 inches, times 2 cylinders is 3.54 square inches, times 2000PSI equals a lifting force of 7,080 lbs. That's plenty to lift the whole damn panel truck off the ground. You could glue two or three fat ladies to the tailgate and give them rides up and down if you were so inclined.

    @nadodave I sent you a PM.

    Outdrive.jpg
     
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  20. BJR
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    " You could glue two or three fat ladies to the tailgate and give them rides up and down if you were so inclined."
    Or........ one really hot looking one. Just saying......:p
     

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