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Technical I got it all wrong, Model A vs 32

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Johnny Gee, Sep 17, 2015.

  1. volvobrynk
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    I like the Deuce, but I most confess that I don't like all deuce owner.
    But they really got some things going for them.

    But this is an discussion as old as cars. 32 or 31?
    I like the 31 the best, but but the 32 is the most beautiful.
    But I'm a humble guy, that only wants to eat, sleep and dream/work/drive rods.

    But from a far with a closed eye they look alike, but every little detail is tweeked. So it's a common mistake, but the average Joe dosent know how much we care about those small details
     
  2. I'm a Deuce guy but I also have a soft spot for Model A's,that's what I cut my hot rodding teeth on.

    There are so many differences in the 30/31's verses the 32.

    Windshield frames on model A's are square at the top,the deuce windshield frames are rounded at the top. HRP

    Model A..

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    Deuce

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  3. falcongeorge
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    As a general rule, I don't even like Model A coupes or sedans unless they are full-fendered. Per my earlier comment, a clear vision and clean execution can trump that, but as a general rule, they leave me cold.
     
  4. This thread makes me scratch my head. It must be a generational thing or something because to me the two cars are... different cars, at first glance, not even a question.

    It's a bit like is it a Mustang or is it a Camaro? You can tell right?

    As I say, may be a generational thing. Having said that , looking at a photo of a stocker of each, surely the differences are obvious?
     
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  5. clem
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    You sure that it's not a Model A ? :)
     
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  6. Deuce Rails
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    A Model A was great for the time. But it's a rickety and shaky car to drive.
    A '32 is a sold car. A smoother engine, in either V8 or 4-banger. It's not the spastic machine the Model A was.

    The differences are huge, and you should post photos so we can help you tell then difference.

    Mattt
     
  7. The car seems to match the criteria in Post #30 so it must be a 1932. Don't let looks deceive you. It has a SBC (181 cubic inch Mercruiser), later brakes (1946-47 Ford), later transmission ('39 Ford), custom paint (apple green pin stipe instead of silver), custom tires (they didn't come stock with white walls). Soon to get aftermarket instruments (oil chex and dual temp). The speedometer only goes to 80 MPH, guess I need to find a 90 MPH in the junk yard.

    Charlie Stephens
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  8. volvobrynk
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    To me it's more like a 65 mustang and a 71 mustang.

    My brother in law can't se the difference between this and a model A :shok:
     

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  9. 97
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    Have you got some banger part for sale Clem? I was sure that car of yours had a banger in it!:D
     
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  10. The37Kid
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    Ray Charles used to give a course on IDing the differences. Bob
     
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  11. Johnny Gee
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    She's said it's a 32, so I agree. :(:oops::D

    Red Fox I would but I can't. Conflict of interest because there's eye's wanting to see how I'm doing thing's differently (correct).
     
  12. BamaMav
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    They're all Model A's to the general public, even non- Ford's, until you get to the fat fender late 30's. All most people see is the car's outline, the details are lost on them....
     
  13. volvobrynk
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    It's funny I know from 5 feed to spot if it's a 28/29, 30/31, 32, 33, 34. I can set a 35 truck apart from a 36. And there is still a lot of parts I can't set apart. Even having them in my hand, still don't know if it's an 32 or 33. I can't set a 30 apart from a 31. I can't set a 29 apart from a 28, and I can't spot a AR from a 29.

    I know it's a bad thing, but that's how it is. But I can spot them from a mile away. But up close, I might mistake them.
    If you showed a pic of a body reveal, I might not take ID them right. Nor a brake pedal. But frame and body I get every time.
     
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  14. Kiwi 4d
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    Sorry if there are no pictures how do we know you have a hot rod of some sort? Please post a couple of the Coupe.
     
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  15. 1great40
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    Maybe I missed something but what about the exposed frame rails of the 32 with the nice sculpted feature line. The Model A certainly didn't have that.
     
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  16. Mine is a Crowvette prototype, and its got a snail head in it now. A long back coupe. :D

    front pass three quarter.jpg
     
  17. RodStRace
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  18. Johnny Gee
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    Guy's, your over worrying thing's here. What I'm working on is a 32 Ford Pickup for my Girl friend. She started with only all the sheet metal and an aftermarket frame that's assumed to be for a Coupe. As far as my involvement, it's this. Work had stopped by another party. Back to why I asked Model A or 32 ? Because I just didn't know a 32 wasn't a Model A. I had assumed it was still part of that description, "Model A".
     
  19. falcongeorge
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    A snailhead...:p
     
  20. It's really this simple. If the gas goes in a filler in front of the windshield, it's a model A. If the gas goes anywhere else, it's not a model A. 30,31 and 32 pickups look a lot alike...the gas filler tip will never fail you unless somebody filled the model A filler and moved the tank ...
     
  21. falcongeorge
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    well, and 80% of whats been posted on how to tell an A from a '32 doesn't apply to pick-ups anyway...IRONY:D And before someone starts, HB32 is in Spain right now, or he could post a pic of HIS factory (early) '32 PU with no frame reveal...:eek:;)
     
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  22. Don't worry about the frame being "for a coupe". All of the frames for the passenger car vehicles and light trucks (pickups) were basically he same for a given time in production. The only differences are there to keep the restorers busy. How about some pictures of the frame and body?

    Charlie Stephens
     
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  23. Johnny Gee
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    https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=772face9486a93fc3528788d56f8368d&oe=56A2594F
     
  24. Thanks for the link to the picture. Definitely a '32 body and frame assuming the firewall unbolted as one piece and was not tack welded to the body. Unless it is an optical illusion the bed may be another year or there may be a different rear end in the truck to explain the location of the rear wheel relative to the bed. Looks like a great start.

    Charlie Stephens
     
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  25. Johnny Gee
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    Yes the firewall unbolt's. That pic is not current and corrections to engine placement are underway as well as welding firewall back together so it will be whole again. As for the bed I'm told it has a 34' tail gate on a 32' bed ?, and as you can see there's been a roll pan of sort's added some time in the 70's. It's possible that it well be removed (cut away) and saved as wall art because of graphics painted on it. Thank's. A back shot https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=f15f3c48d10b3a83caa41cf1653c076d&oe=565D3C90
     
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  26. Vonn Ditch
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    A Model A looks exactly like a '32, only different.
     
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  27. A Boner
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    A Deuce is a Model A's fat brother.
     
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  28. big duece
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    I know when someone has an old car for sale on craigslist, they are ALL 32 fords.
     
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  29. And all old Ford's are roadsters. I was thinking about that this morning. I worked with a guy that bout an all original model A rumble seat coupe, because he always wanted to build a roadster. o_O:confused:

    I think confusing an A with a Deuce is not nearly as bad as confusing a coupe with a roadster.
     
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  30. It is probably good that they are ALL '32 Fords since ALL of the parts on EBAY are for '32 Fords.

    Charlie Stephens
     
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