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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Shaner's74, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. Olderchild
    Joined: Nov 21, 2012
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    GOOD!!! call me crazy but i like to adjust my lifters after the engine is hot and while it's running others will say it a waste of time i'm sure (to those:p)
     
  2. Russco
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    from Central IL

    Yes, the valves were adjusted a little too tight so they were not closing fully = no compression in a few cylinders = wouldn't start.
     
  3. aonemarine
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    Better to catch it now than after a few miles...exhaust g***es can cut thru stuff just like steam...

    Im still not done bustin his balls yet though, just trying to find a way to do it in good taste...:p
     
  4. Russco
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    I'm using Morels(hyd roller) in the 383 I'm building now. They are really nice but they set up a bit different. They come from the factory filled with some type of light oil. I put them all in and tightened the lash up to squeeze out the oil they were shipped with. Then I soaked them in a good 10W30 oil then set lash as directed.
     
  5. aonemarine
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    Hmm, light oil.... sounds like my honing tank oil....or grinding fluid...
     
  6. woodbutcher
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    :D RE: DDCoopman.Just saw the thumbnail that you posted.I just about choked on my iced tea.That is a spittin image of a sweet old kitty that we had about 10 years ago.Right down to the expression.Thanks for the memories.
    Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
    Leo
     
  7. Rickybop
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    aonemarine goes to the head of the cl*** and gets a gold star on his forehead from Miss McGillicuddy....along with Olderchild, tjet, telekenfun and Rusco. (hope I didn't miss anyone) And lots of good input from 31Vicky with a hemi and others. But I think aonemarine was the first to say "pumped up lifters." (pg. 2) Sounds like Vicky's method of pre-pumping the lifters before installation is plenty worth the time and effort.

    Glad ya got 'er straightened out, Shaner's74!

    Again...I learned (and re-learned) some stuff here.
    Good one, guys. As usual, the Hamb rocks and rolls.

    Cl*** dismissed. Next week, we'll study intermittent loss of spark. :D
     
  8. DD COOPMAN
    Joined: Jul 25, 2009
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    I've pre-soaked and pre-pumped new lifters in a coffee can forever in the past. Can't remember who taught me that. Good advice, anyhow. DD
     
  9. Shaner's74
    Joined: Dec 19, 2011
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    I presoaked and pumped up the lifters on this engine.
     
  10. swade41
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    I still want to know how you are checking the timing without it running ? If you are pointing the rotor at number one and hope you are in the ball park then I can live with that.
     
  11. McGurk
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    I replaced a countless number of camshafts and lifters in all of the different Chevrolet engines when I worked as a mechanic at two different Chevrolet dealerships. I popped open a can of GM EOS and coated the camshaft and lifters and in the engine they went. When adjusting the lifters I rotated the engine to TDC #1 and static adjusted the lifters on IN 1257 and EX 1348. I rotated each push rod with my thumb and fore finger in order to detect zero lash. The spring in the lifter will prevent rotation. After completing that phase I rotated the engine 1 full turn clockwise and adjusted the remaining lifters using the same technique. After completing the second phase I went down each bank and tightened the adjusting nuts down a half of a turn. I prided myself in building an engine that would start and run as it was ***embled. The lifter clatter was barely detectable. That is very common behavior a****st engine builders because an engines first few second can effect the engines overall life expectancy.
     
  12. henryj1951
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    :cool:
    happy holidays
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2013
  13. 66tintop
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    Have you ever hooked your battery up *** backwards ? If you had , and tried to crank it over , then you have fried your msd box right awAy , just asking !
     

  14. I really have no idea besides guesses.
    But Something went wrong for you here.

    Like I said before is not mysticism, it's methods
    The compression test method you originally chose to use led you and the thread on a different path than it should have. Eventually it found its way but took the long way home. Sometimes the scenery is nice.
     
  15. aonemarine
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    LOL no, I have reverse rotation starters......:D
     
  16. This method is fantastic with the following caveats
    1 You are certain the lifters are quality units
    2 you get paid by the piece to put the egnine together once , and by the hour if there's a problem.

    Since the influx of **** for lifters I can't see myself ever doing it this way again.
     
  17. Shaner's74
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    Exactly. That is the only way to set initial timing. Once it's up and running you can put the timing light on it.
     
  18. Shaner's74
    Joined: Dec 19, 2011
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    Who?
     
  19. tjet
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    FWIW, I always use Johnson lifters, but they are not cheap. I think they are the only US made lifter. For my hemi I was quoted 12 ea for hyd flat tappet

    http://johnsonlifters.com/Products.aspx

    I've also used Crower Camsavers too

    http://www.summitracing.com/search/...rower-camsaver-hydraulic-lifters?autoview=SKU

    One more thing: I never soak them. Put them in empty & check oil flow thru the pushrods during the pre-lube procedure

    Anyway - glad ypu got it running (cheers)
     
  20. Steve!
    Joined: Sep 27, 2011
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    I could use some johnson lifters too anymore
     
  21. Olderchild
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    It' soooo easy to get lost while adjusting lifters(for me any hoo:eek:), ah lets see i just did #3 intake dah didn't i, ah **** here we go again,back to square one:mad: I'm easily distracted and it a curse
     
  22. aonemarine
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    LOL..... "Paint marker" :D
     
  23. Me too
    the phone rings- the pizza guy shows up, the neighbor stops by to BS, the old lady wants to play grab ***, the dogs gotta go Pee , you gotta Pee, ***embly lube tube got clogged, the cut you got yesterday starts bleeding again, and you can't find the damn paint marker.
     
  24. tjet
    Joined: Mar 16, 2009
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJsnR-KDbFc
     
  25. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Static timing is my guess. HRP
     
  26. henryj1951
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    Last edited: Dec 16, 2013
  27. Olderchild
    Joined: Nov 21, 2012
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    YA! So you guys can embarr*** an old amateur like me:p
     
  28. theHIGHLANDER
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