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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by crapshoot, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. crapshoot
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    a freind of mine just bought a house and he got some "free junk" with it in his woods among them is a 2door buick on its roof and a 4door dodge and this engine that i have no clue what it is see if you can id this basterd

    the buick
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    the dodge
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    heres the engine in question
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  2. Model A Mark
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    looks like a ford transmission
     
  3. Pir8Darryl
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    Looks to me like it's a V8 :D
     
  4. ponchopowered
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    that old doge would be neat to get on the road. the water pump on the motor looks like a hemi. the tranny does look ford though
     
  5. Well thats definately a 46 47 or 48 Dodge, If it were a 2dr sedan Id be all over the window trims!!!! But I could still use the front fender spear on the drivers side and the rear ones if they would be available.....also if the chrome around the rear lights werent too pitted ID be intresyted if he wants to make a couple a bucks......engine, kinda looks like dodge or maybe Studee by the intake ports....
     
  6. JohnEvans
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    Trans looks like maybe a Borg/Warner style with a torque tube connection. My guess Rambler-AMC.
     
  7. DE SOTO
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    I would need to see a bit more of the Engine,
    But i will go on a Limb and Say Mid '50s Packard with a a Hydramatic.

    Trans don't look Ford to me.
     
  8. JohnEvans
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    Yep ,could be a Packard/hydro combo also.
     
  9. I think Packard also . I have one in the barn that I will compare for kicks

    I will buy 52 Buick parts for good $'s... if you guys are willing.
    Serious.

    Jeff Brock
    york-brock@cybermesa.com
     
  10. Squablow
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    I'm saying that the Buick is a '51. '50 didn't get the tail fins, and the '52 has the swoopy side trim that doesn't go all the way back to the quarter panel. So it almost has to be a '51, unless I'm wrong about the fins.
     
  11. fer sure not a Ford trannie or block...hydro closed tube and....not the motor from the Buick?
     
  12. F&J
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    I think Buick V8 was first out in 53??


    I read on hamb that Buick nailheads used an intake that was flat on the head mounting....so the engine in the pic has angled manifold surface.
     
  13. Buick didn't get a V8 until '53 and would have had a Dynaflow trans.

    Might be a code on the tag on that trans that would help ID it.
     
  14. arkiehotrods
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  15. crapshoot
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  16. crapshoot
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    i think the buick from what i can see in the pics he took. the buick is a 50 fastback, the fifty has the straight trim and the dual bullet tail lights it still has the engine and trans in it not sure what else is there. i might have to drive up to his place and get it
     
  17. RichFox
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    Don't look much like my Packard to me. Dished valley cover like a Pontiac. Deep pan rails like a Y block. My Pac isn't like that.
     
  18. Little Wing
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  19. hotrodjeep
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    I'll put my vote in for AMC 287-327.. x2 on the Borg-Warner TT Auto... Very AMC

    Water pump is similar and the motor mount is the same.

    Jeff
     

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  20. 4speedman
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    Looks like an old Poly 318 dodge mtr
     
  21. R Pope
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    Not a Mopar engine, or Buick either. Closed drive, iron body trans, like they say, Pac or Stude? Maybe Pontiac?
     
  22. RichFox
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    Don't look like my Stude. Don't look like my Pack. Cornbinder?
     
  23. Hudson? Oldwolf
     
  24. daliant
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    definatly AMC/Rambler. 287 or 327
     
  25. arkiehotrods
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  26. mart3406
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    --------------------
    I think you probably nailed it. The 250 and 327 AMC V8's
    used a separate stamped-steel valley cover - like the
    engine in question - and '50's and early 60's vintage AMC
    cars all used closed 'torque-tube' drive lines too.

    Mart3406
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  27. jr9162
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    The Buford appears to be a 50 sedanette (or jetback) with 52 Buick tail fins mounted on the fenders. Side trim and bumper doesn't match a 51 or 52 Buick. The tailfins were OEM only in 1950.
     
  28. that motor looks like its from a henway....
     
  29. gone blown hemi
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    Been to long but i was wondering if the motor and transmission came out of a dynaflow buick. Looks like it is a closed driveshaft. Sometime around 1957 i worked on a dynaflow transmission that looked something like this. I sure would like to know for no reason, just wondering, gone blown hemi
     
  30. farna
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    Oh yeah, it's an AMC GEN-1 (250/287/327) V-8. Dizzy in back, valley cover, cast iron plates on the sides for the engine mounts, Borg-Warner M-8 transmission with torque tube. If the torque tube flange has four bolts it's a 62-66, if two bolts it's 56-61. Engien size depends on bore -- 3.5" = 250, 3.75" = 287, 4.0" = 327. Not worth much in that condition, but heavy scrap iron!
     

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