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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rixrex, Sep 23, 2007.

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  1. Did someone say crime?? Hell Im in!
     
  2. GOONZ
    Joined: Apr 19, 2006
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    You tried your best to go about it the right way and now you have no other choice......I authorize it.
     
  3. 402
    Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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    But how would you register it?
     
  4. jasonp
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    i didn't see anything
     
  5. 39delux
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    There is an owner of record on file someplace in the county courthouse. If it is an individual I'd at least contact them to see if they are aware of the cars and what their intentions are. They may be glad to have some help getting this old junk off of the property. If the land is dormant and abandoned due to seisure for back taxes or the owner died and there is no heir to found or something like that it is then your moral duty to save these cars from the crusher. If someone buys this property for developement you know what will happen to this stuff and it won't be pretty.

    Tom
     
  6. 39delux
    Joined: Nov 1, 2002
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    Apply for a ***le on a bill of sale. Claim it was given to you as junk and there is no ***le that you know of. Apply for a state issued VIN due to no ***le for the car. In other words do the same as if you bought a body at a swap meet without a ***le.

    Tom
     
  7. 62_Galaxie_500
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    I felt your post was missing something:

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  8. ....and once again I post rixrex, if you want to know who owns this proeprty and want to contact the owner, send me a pm.
     
  9. gavin
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    You can put the "Drive it like you Stole it" bumper sticker on it, and not be lying!
     
  10. skyrodder
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    I'd help you if i was there in San Antone.... and i know nothing...
     
  11. Lucky77
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    This is really quite the quandry. Just because you've seen somebody else take the bodies doesn't make it right, it's still stealing. We all know the high degree of contempt thieves are held to on this site. On the flip side if they're going to be crushed and no one cares then I would also be planning a late night raid to rescue as much tin as I possibly could. I think if you were taking the cars to s**** them and finance a meth habit, then that's bad. If you're taking the cars to return them to the road and enjoy them then I don't think the hot rod gods will mind. Good luck in you're venture.
     
  12. 31whitey
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    "lets go do some crimes"

    Snake
     
  13. LUX BLUE
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    what would I do?

    Find a 4 wheeler, a tow strap, and some wasp spray and get after it.

    I have seen this happen too many times around here....I knew of a pretty nice 57 chevy post car that sat in front of an obviously abandoned house a while back. I drove past it frequently, asked the neighbors about it (They said bank forclosure) tried to get in touch with the previous owners...all to no avail. The day i came by and saw they had bulldozed the lot, I started looking for traces of the car-and I found it.
    The ****smoking bulldozer driver used it to level the front of the house. it was inside the rubble.


    ****.

    I should have simply sent a wrecker for it. Less obvious that 5 or 6 heavily tattooed yahoos pushing it onto a trailer.
     
  14. toledobill
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    If you need a hundred or so for bail money, let me know. I always give to a good cause.
     
  15. 54BOMB
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    Just an idea, get the VIN of some of the cars, take it to the hall of records and see who owns them. I had to go through this process when I was getting the ***le stuff together on my old 54 , it was pretty easy.
     
  16. Frosty21
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    Get 'em!

    They won't even be s****ped more than likely, just dirt mowed over top of them and buried. The only thing they'll do is poke through the ground when it settles, trip people, and be a potential hazard.

    Save as much as you can, old cars don't make good filler matireal in soil
     
  17. tfeverfred
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    No matter what the out come of those cars MIGHT be, you would be stealing. I find it hard to believe so many people are actually urging you on. A trip to the county tax office will show who owns that property.

    If I owned the land and suspected people were taking cars, I'd have the vins and wait till you finished fixing it up before I got the cops and went to claim it. That would be a good lesson.

    Do the right thing. Also, when asked at an event where you got it, what would you do? Lie? Then you'd be a liar AND a thief. No respect in that at all.
     
  18. Frosty21
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    I've seen this happen before, whoever owns it probably dosn't even know their there. They've probably hired somebody to "clean up" the property, and they'll be wadded up under some scrub brush or buried under a couple of inches of dirt and never be usable to anybody or anything.
     
  19. SlamCouver
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    ''when asked at an event where you got it, what would you do? Lie? Then you'd be a liar AND a thief. No respect in that at all.''


    ha no just say you found it in a field. thats usualy where some pretty bad *** builds come from anyways.

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  20. SlamCouver
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    p.s. oh yeah and that would be the truth
     
  21. I find it funny that when someone on the HAMB's car gets stolen, you guys want to hang the thief by the balls and slit his thoat...

    But when somone finds something, like these cars, supposedly abandoned... then it's okay to go take it?

    The car(s) belong to whoever owns the land... just because YOU can't figure out who owns the land, doesn't make it right to go take it.

    Just like it wouldn't be right to steal something out of a guy's garage just because he isn't building it.

    It's called "situational ethics"... and I'm not buying it.

    Sam.
     
  22. tfeverfred
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    LOL Actually, the truth would be you TOOK (aka stole) them from a field. It's a nice play on words to validate a wrongful act, but in the end, you know what's right and wrong.
     
  23. holding these items for the owner until they claim them is a safer way to keep them from being destroyed

    have you any connections to a local yard?
    with a team of multiple haulers?
    so that all will be saved

    o by the way my dad left his 32 sedan in austin before the war .. so we'll be coming to get it when ya get it running.. it was brownish colored send a pic and i'll be sure

    thanks for posting this ...
    the jury here has not weighed in completly yet....

    me thinks OJ will be in more trouble than you!
     
  24. All I can say on this subject is that I am ashamed to be on the same Message board with the individuals here, saying this is OK.....:confused:

    Also it makes me a significant list of names that I do not want to have any bussiness dealings with in the future.:D

    So if I am sellin some good parts or cars here or making someone a good deal on anything else I deal in.....
    -just you ignore me!...Ya hear?!!!!!
     
  25. Dick Dake
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    Wasn't there a post a few weeks ago about going into a ghost town to get tin and people were pissed about the proposed theft. Do some hunting and find the owner. If there are no owners, then it's fine. If there is one, offer to do some junk removal for a s**** cost. Either way, a little time, effort and money will be worth it. God may shine upon you for doing the right thing.
     
  26. joeycarpunk
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    from MN,USA

    Go through the right channels to locate a owner of the property and the cars, chances are you will get them anyways if you deal straight about it. If they choose to let them rot it'll be a shame, but it is theres to do with as they wish.
     
  27. Larry T
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  28. Frosty21
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    Actually, you could just move them to your property to avoid them being turned into the equivelant of re-bar for the time being. If anybody cared or you ever contacted the owner, there'd be a few more buildable old cars in the world.

    They sure aren't making them anymore, and I've seen quite a bit wasted for absolutely no reason. There was some old 50's buicks and impalas buried in the sand above my uncles house for a long time, still had some usable stuff on them and the people that owned them lived in the mid-west some place. They hired somebody to clean the land off-so they just wadded the old cars up in a pile and rammed it into some trees-I guess they really meant something to them.

    Tried to find some fenders for my '54 International I bought out of a s**** yard a month ago, once saw an mid-50's IH pickup sticking out of a creek a couple of counties away. Drove up through there to try to get ahold of the guy that owned the farm-but somebody had absolutely flattened the thing and rolled it into some brush with old gas tanks.

    Thing is, most people just don't care about salvaging old cars-same way some people just throw pups in a garbage bag and throw them out-they just don't care and won't even go through the effort of finding somebody that would actually have some use for them. Its the quickest and easiest way out for them-and thats usually the s****per or burying them where I live.

    So really, move them out of there-they might not be there in a day or two. If somebody really cared about them-they'll claim them and probably be glad you saved them from turning into junk, if they don't-then its yours.
     
  29. rab71
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    You're not commiting a crime, you are performing a service! Cleaning up the area of unsightly "junk"!
     
  30. wvenfield
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    Not necessarily as we do not know the whole story. One suggestion on how they got there is noted elsewhere. If I drive over to your house and have a heart attack and die, does my car belong to you? No.

    Now technically they must belong to someone and there has to be some sort of abandoned vehicle laws I imagine. They don't necessarly belong to the person who owns the property. I imagine he could get a lien for storage but barring that the owners are likely lost to time.
     
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