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Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by rose62, Mar 31, 2026.

  1. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    What forum should I post regarding an induction that I want to try. It will combine off the shelf parts but is kind of unique. Thanks
     
  2. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
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    gene-koning
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    Any part of a car that might show up in pictures (like your Mustang) or parts choices (like fuel injection) that were are not available in 1965 or before, should probably be posted here in the off topic section.
     
  3. Welcome :)

    I found this (your) post in the off-topic section so I'd say you already are in the correct spot. I say "post away". That being said, if the mods feel it needs to be somewhere else, they'll go ahead and move it.

    Are you the guy who intends to mount 16 Briggs & Stratton 8hp carbs on Gramps old 427 SOHC? :D;)
     
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  4. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    LOL, Not. My concept is to mount a couple of Weber 38/38, or maybe progressive style 32/36's, on a fuel injection, 5.0 lower intake in a OOOO configuration on my GT40P in my '66 Mustang. The movement of the throttle actuator lever is parallel to the ****erflies instead of ninety degrees like usual, which should make using the existing pedal lever easy. Thoughts? BTW, Not sure if the carb pic is accurate, so it's just for reference.[​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  5. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
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    Deuces

    Looks like a stock 5.0L Ford pony intake...
    I have the Cobra version I need to get rid of...
     
  6. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    @rose62
    That the truck lower ?
    Any ways I will work .
    Few options I can think of ,
    I would not run Progressive .
    Have one carb feed 4 ports ,
    With divider between the 8 ports .
    Have one carb " barrels" feed two ports @ a time , with divider ,
    Or Open plenum both carbs feeding all 8 m***age ports in away of funnel shape.
    Maybe use upper cut & dice , weld

    Or 4 to 8 motorcycle carbs

    Or cut intake lower in way making all 4 or 8 like wedge V shape .
    Its going to be experimenting
    There was one intake with a removable
    Top
    IMG_5233.png
     
  7. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    There a video floating on net
    a B-S carb on a Ls running ,
    The only problem from idle then under load Small carb can not keep up ,
    If I was the one doing experiment I would of used the 45-60 hp B-S carb .
    But I Realy do not know why of Video
    Unless trying to make view $.
    I have ran sbc off Tape & can of
    Brake clean no carb
     
  8. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    The parts selection is not specific. There's a guy a few miles from me that has the lower from an '89 GT, 5.0 for $25. The 38/38 carbs are available new from about $100. Chinese, I'm sure. I took the car to a local place for jet checking the Summit 4V and signed a waiver that had a blank for how high they had permission to turn the engine and for their protection I put 5500. I regularly turn it that high or higher. But they tested it to only 4500 and it made 240hp there. So it's not an atmosphere ****ing beast. I've read that the lower GT intake can easily support 300hp so it won't be the limiting factor here. I just really want something different. Though, the Summit 600cfm runs well.
     
  9. Flatrod17
    Joined: Apr 25, 2017
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    Make a box shaped plenum to bolt on to that intake, then put anything on top of that. I have seen them with 2 2100 Ford carbs, 2 2300 Holley carbs and 3x2's with either 94's or 97's.
     
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  10. FrozenMerc
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    ^^^ Flatrod is right on. You need a common plenum so all the carbs see the same signal. The lower EFI intake is individual runner and you will never be able to tune it if you feed one throat of each carb into each individual runner.
     
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  11. DDDenny
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    DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Totally unrelated but.................
    A friend of mine had a Toyota shop truck in the early eighties with a small block Chevy engine in it............with a pair of big Mikuni carbs.
     
  12. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    No matter Performance or economy
    A Non Efi thats not direct port
    Its best to have One carb per runner
    Then One carb feeding 8 runners
    Unless each runner is same length
    If you where to put on a Dyno not for Hp readings , Dyno to Monitor each cylinder you will see AFR are not balance between the 8 no mater if
    Duel plain , open plain from Idle , cruise to WOT . A Tunnel Ram or the longer the runner's will give a more tight AFR
    across all ..
    Carberation
    with out flowing all carbs on flow bench not all flow same way with out
    Some needing m***aging to makeing equal flow , any one using Single or multiple carbs You should tune off the leanest cylinder @ what ever the engine
    Rpms are going to use @ majority of time , pick wrong cylinder you can burn a piston ... & we are not even going more in depth to different spark plug heat range in each cylinders , or some with different grind on cam lobe vs other cylinder , water temp around each spark plug , chamber , then following thew to exhaust port , there is so much to know & work threw & etc.
    Only a " signal" cylinder engine is easy to tune , the more yr adding extra cylinder with in Reality is another separate engine , One cylinder can drag the other cylinder down because not working the same , So 8 cylinder in Reality 8 engines.
    Even a H-D V twin carb in middle both cylinder are not equal front to rear .
     
  13. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    The reality is that it's just something that I want to try. I don't mind being a little rich and I'm not worried about maximum power. The way the lower 5.0 intake is made, I would basically be treating the engine like two V4's, with four intake ports being fed by two venturi.
     
  14. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
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    I under stand I do things / experiment.
    I Do Not have ACCESS to all the necessarily Dyno playing for information,

    Just tune off the leanlest cylinder
    So No bunt piston !
     
  15. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    F-1 spend's average 145 million for one race team in year , imagine how much they speed in development research
     
  16. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    I bought a 5.0 lower intake today. $25. It's from a truck.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. Flatrod17
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    I can't quite tell but that looks like a 351 Windsor intake. 302's are straight across the back, Windsor's have a bump out and are wider.
     
  18. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    Well.... The guy said it was from his 5.0 truck. But maybe he didn't know what he had. I'll have to check.
     
  19. Flatrod17
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    If you have a 302 now, measure across the intake bolts and compare. Windsor's are wider. I have both here if you need measurements.
     
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  20. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    I will compare it to the Edelbrock currently this afternoon. But thank you for the offer. I appreciate it.
     
  21. onetrickpony
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    onetrickpony
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    from Texas

    Many years ago, I saw a guy put a Rochester 2 barrel on a Toyota truck. It ran great.

    And Red Green used a toilet for a carb on a Camaro!
     
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  22. rose62
    Joined: Mar 31, 2026
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    rose62

    Yup. Good eye. It's a 351 manifold. Good thing I only paid $25!!
     
  23. Flatrod17
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    I have extra 302 lowers but it would cost more than $25 to ship it to you!
     
  24. rose62
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    rose62

    Shoot me a $. 30179
     
  25. Flatrod17
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    20260411_120218.jpg 20260411_120238.jpg Rose62,
    I will have to box it up to get shipping. I would sell the bottom one for the same $25 and with the shipping whatever that is. The top one is a Cobra lower, it is what I am going use. I not sure what you are doing but I will throw in this box section I was going to use to make a plenum.
     
  26. Flatrod17
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    Deuces above says he has a Cobra intake he wants to get rid of. I would start with that, much better performance!
     

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