I have found an Industrial Hemi for sale, but it is missing the pistons. Does anyone carry pistons for these motors? Does something else work? The engine is a 431 or 413. What trans will fit? Thanks
EGGE, Hot Heads and many others, you have to realize that all HEMI parts are made of solid gold and priced accordingly dont pay to much to start with. an old block is exactly that. 75-200 is about what its worth depending on condition there is no such thing as 431-413 Hemi! get the numbers off the flat area at the front of the valley cover. then do your home work
Thanks for the info, I was wondering about the size myself. I thought the industrials may have been different than the car motors. Duke
It should be a 331,354 or 392. Industrial engines have adjustable rocker gear and valve covers made to clear the rockers. Good stuff!! How much is it?
It won't be a 392. They never made a 392 industrial engine. On the back left side of the engine is a plate with a number let us know what it say's and we'll tell you what you are looking at. For example I think the IND56 is a 331 and the IND56A is a 354. Here's a page with a lot of useful info. http://www.classichemi.com/index1.shtml As for the industrials having adjustable rockers, I've yet to see one that does. They do have the dimpled valve covers for the adjustable rockers but seldom have them.
Before you do anything call TROY'S ENGINE MANUFACTURING. 166 N. Yellowstone Hwy, Rigby, Idaho 83442-5657. Phone is 208-745-7347. Ask for Troy Johnson or Jeff Taylor. They build hemis, including cutting off the industrial bell housing for an adapter to a car. Ask them anything you want to know. Also, geta copy of THE COMPLETE CHRYSLER HEMI ENGINE MANUAL by Ron Ceridono. It has ton's of info you will want to know about hemis and shows an engine being rebuilt by Troy's Engine Manufacturing- step by step.
[ QUOTE ] including cutting off the industrial bell housing for an adapter to a car. [/ QUOTE ] All extended bell hemis are 331's. The extended bell housing hemi was in passenger vehicles also (1951 to 54-ish), not just the industrial engines. There is only one adapter, that I know of, to adapt an automatic trans to the extended bell hemi. It's VERY long. Too long for my car, so I run a TH700 with an adapter I made for my extended bell hemi. I wouldn't do it again (it works good, but it was WAY too much work). The extended bell hemi is best used with a manual trans in my opinion. If you want to run an automatic trans, I'd look for a 354 or 392 with the short bell housing. LP
Update on the Hemi - I was finally able to contact the guy that has the motor. It is a 1970 413 which he claims is the Hemi block with standard heads. It came out of a motor home. The motor only has 50,000 on it, but it blew a piston and needs to be bored 60 over (he claims he did not due this as he is running it on propane). I guess the only Hemi heads that would fit on this motor are from the 426? I have never looked for a set of these, but I am sure they are really expensive. Thanks for the help. Duke
Time to walk away, 426 heads won't fit either, There is STAGE V HEADS will fit any 383-440 block, Ardun, for the flathead, you can even get Hemi heads for a big block chev. those are all cubic dollar conversions. Want a HEMI? find a HEMI! and then save your money to build it.
[ QUOTE ] and then save your money to build it. [/ QUOTE ] I've got $3000 into my 392. New pistons, new cam, bearings, adjustable push rods, reconditioned rods, etc...Fresh motor.
Duke, Don't get discouraged- 413's are not necessarily bad engines. The one you're considering may be perfect for what you need. However, 413 parts aren't interchangeable with Hemi (either early 331/354/392, or late 426/528) parts. It sounds like someone's trying to mislead you into believing that they are. Get yourself educated, then buy/build the engine that YOU want. FWIW, after years of 350 Chevy experience, I'm collecting 354 Hemi parts and have found that with a Hemi build-up, the first thing to go is your checkbook. The next thing to go is your back.
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