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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bart78, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Skirv
    Joined: Jul 5, 2006
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    I've seen that air raid siren on numerous occasions. It is NOT powered by a 392. It's a 1952 331 Chrysler. He has more than one, and they are all powered by 331's

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  2. bulletproof1
    Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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    from tulsa okla

    i didnt say ALL had ..said alot.... all the ones ive seen had the adjustable rockers,,, as for timing covers, hot heads shows 51-54 covers and 51-58 truck marine covers being the same and car covers 54-58 as different..also on my industrail motor theres no provision for a fuel pump... also the car motors dont have the big tag on the back of the block where the industrail motors post their specs,,,
     
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  3. bowie
    Joined: Jul 27, 2011
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    Having been employed in the water pump buisness all my life,I would say static power units are a good "basis" for hot rod mills if rebuilt. A low hour unit could work out fine as is,but one with many hours has more than likely been run only at set RPM:1150,1750 ect. Most right angle pump drives are 1to1 ratio,however we have set up 2to1 alot of times. 1750RPM engine speed=3500RPM pump speed.Once a power unit has run constant like this,they don`t want to rev out like varible automotive applications.
     
  4. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
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    The cams are ground for low RPM, that's why you have to sub a car cam in them.
     
  5. designs that work
    Joined: Aug 29, 2005
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    My friend and I have found two Flathead Fords from wind machines and one Flathead Merc from a chemical sprayer. The Merc was freshened with new rings and bearings and a after market cam plus a C4. Very good running engine. I kept one of the Fords and put it in my modified as is. Uses oil on long high speed runs. Great for around town.
     
  6. I just tore down a Chrysler industrial. It had only 1 water p***age per side in the block , regular timing chain and crankshaft nose, 4 bolt water pump built into timing chain cover including fuel pump, two barrel wet manifold, regular rockers, pressure plate clutch and one hell of heavy bell housing.

    That timing chain cover/water pump housing puts the fan within a 1/4 inch of the BBC conversion and HHH aluminium timing cover. Iteresting.
     
  7. mart3406
    Joined: May 31, 2009
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    from Canada

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    Ahhhgg! Sorry, but that statement
    is pure B.S. - and one of my major
    'early hemi disinformation' pet
    peeves! I'm not saying it's intentional,
    but you are spreading an old and all
    too common 'old wives tale' and myth.
    Chrysler *never, ever* made a 392
    hemi 'Industrial engine'. Also, no
    *factory-built or installed* 392 hemi
    'truck' or 'marine' engines either, for
    that matter. The 392s were *all* and
    *only ever* installed in Chrysler and
    Imperial - *p***enger cars* and only
    for two model years, in 1957 and
    1958.

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  8. TERPU
    Joined: Jan 2, 2004
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    You are lucky to be in West Texas. I have spent time out there and have family in the Odessa/Midland area. Lots and lots of wellhead Chryslers and wind machines were used. While it is true all purpose built industrial engines were either 331 or 354's. Farmers and Ranchers didn't care what it was as long as it would fit the application. Ever seen a wrecked 57 or 58 Chrysler on a ranch missing the engine? Well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where it went. We are dealing with 60+ year old stuff here and men who built stuff to work not be "correct". Most of those motors had the car style crank, not all but most. Alot of the gear drive or smooth snout cranks were in boats, fire pumps, giant generators, or anything that required front mounted stuff. Wellheads are typically a lighter duty application where the flywheel end is used. Those engines you could get are probably in good shape as they typically ran at 2000-2500 RPM all day long. Chryslers typically don't get much ringland due to the Hemi combustion chamber and the even flame front. Just hope they had good air cleaners because everything I pulled out of West Texas was either great because the air was kept clean or completely worn out due to the grit. I am hoping in your stash somebody pulled a '92 out of a car and transplanted it. That would be a great score.


    Tim
     
  9. 51504bat
    Joined: May 22, 2010
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    I used to trade at the local Albright's Auto Parts (now Napa) in Redlands as well as the old Phoenix Motor Parts and the old time machinists at both stores worked on the old flatties in the wind machines and considered them good motors. When oranges were king in the area the motors were well maintained since a grower couldn't risk a crop suffering frost damage due to a wind machine taking a dump during a freeze.
     
  10. slacker1965
    Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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    neat post!!!!
    the 401 or 425 nailhead out of my brothers wrecked '65 rivi served as a backup ski-lift motor @ mt bachelor in the 80's until the lifts were upgraded.....
    guess there is all kind of industral applications for neat motors out there
     
  11. For some people, every hemi is a 392. Even the red ram a 392. 1952 extended bell 392. Like every sbc is a "327 vette motor" , every hotrod is a roadster, model A coupes need a 5 window differentiation, and look at all the model A 32 fords. You'll never fix this.
     
  12. 73RR
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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    My best story is about a guy that calls a says he has a 392 for sale, says it came out of a DeSoto... It wasn't too far away so I drove over to take a look. Bone stock 291. "what makes you think this is a 392", I ask. He points to firewall tag that clearly shows the paint code as '392'... all he saw was the magic number and off he runs.

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