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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by midnightrider78, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. tfeverfred
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    Here's what a shrink would say, "Stop beating around the damn bush and tell me what the hell's going on! You're paying by the hour."

    Seriously. No one can help, if you don't say what hurts.
     
  2. midnightrider78
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    Well, you're half right. While I have no problem with my Dad, I can barely stand to look at this car anymore.
    As I said before, I am aware that there is no way I'll get all my money back. I was just wondering how much I may be able to recoup.
     
  3. fsae0607
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    I agree, just store it for a while until the itch to wrench on it comes back.
     
  4. tfeverfred
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    You don't have a problem with your dad, but you don't want him to know you sold it?
     
  5. midnightrider78
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    This is a big part of the reason that I am having such a problem. Because of it's sentimental value this car was going to be "the one"... that is, the closest to perfect that I would ever own. Now that this is proving to not be the case, I can't deal with it. I have no problems with drivers, mind you. But if it is to be a driver, I expect to not have more than 10k in a vehicle by the time it is completely finished(I am able to do all the labor except sewing up the interior myself) Some may see this as unrealistic, but so far I have had 3 pretty nice finished cars that were done for well below my 10k limit.
     
  6. midnightrider78
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    Obviously he will know if I do in fact sell it. I just figured there was no sense in stirring the pot while I am simply trying to make a decision.
     
  7. mashed
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    You know you're going to have to re***emble it to get the most bucks for it.

    Might be the therapy you need to get over this.
     
  8. trollst
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    Sorry....I don't get it, I think a lot of us don't get it, if its not perfect you'll sell it for a loss rather than build a driver? If you got the stuff, put it together best you can, make an actual car to sell that an average guy can buy and drive away, instead of wondering what a pile of parts is worth. You obviously got something mysterious going on, if you don't want the car, take what you can for it, if you can build a driver, get on with it, to hell with everyone else, don't matter what we think.
     
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  10. Roger Walling
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    It sounds to me that you have a personal problem that may or may not be aggravated by the car.

    You may simply have a health problem that you don't recognize. See a doctor and explain your feelings to him. It could be as simple as low vitamins or a bodily function that could be helped easily.

    I also felt depressed for a while and my doctor prescribed simple medicines that brought back my health and well being. Now I cant stop working on cars.

    Selling the car will not solve anything. Please, see a doctor before its to late.
     
  11. midnightrider78
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    As someone said, I'm kind of in a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation. I've already got way more in it than I would ever spend on a finished driver and it still needs gl***, part of the interior, wiring, exhaust, fuel lines/tank, and a few other little pieces here and there. So at this point my view is either sell it and lose probably 30-40% or spend more money and time to finish it and have 50-60% more in it than I would ever have spent on a driver.
     
  12. hotroddon
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    I think you have to come to terms with this first
     
  13. fastcar1953
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    about 25 years ago i was building the ultiment show car. going to win trophies ,be in magizines etc. i butchered a perfectly good car and sold it for about a 1/3 what i had in it.
    i could try again today but the car would be out of style. so you have been building this car to what was in style then and it took this long ,now it's outta style so you don't want it. style is what you like not others.
    mine is kinda 90's style and street roddy. i like it and thats what matters.
    if your father is on here he will find out. may as well post pictures.
     
  14. 56premiere
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    It sounds like your 2-3 thousand away, . plus 18 you have spent. Not many tri fives that are really finished at that price. And you know every thing done. I hope you can work through it. I also say set it back for awhile.. Good luck Jack
     
  15. 56don
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    I once had a car I thought was going to be the perfect one just like I had always wanted since high school. It soon became apparent that this particular car would not ever be that car. The car I wanted it to be like was a new one back in the day. So I kept it for a while, hardly ever drove it, made the best car I could out of it without spending big bucks on it. A few years later I sold it. The market had increased its value to what I had it in and I let it go.
    So, store it away if you don't need the bucks. One day it will be worth the 18 grand. If its a tri five Chevy, the value will increase, they are the new version of the 32 Ford so don't sell too early.
     
  16. mashed
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    Finish building it and fully insure it for an unghastly amount.

    Then park it overnight at a motel during a Goodguys show.

    Problem solved.
     
  17. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    You are usually damned when trying to get all your $$$ out of a car project. That's why we build them for fun, but yours is no longer fun, so sell it, cut your losses and move on. Make another person happy. The car deserves to be finished/enjoyed.

    You just laid out your two choices;

    1) Sell it as is and recoup most of your money.

    2) Finish it.

    If you finish it will you keep it or sell it?
    This is sounding like a troubleshooting tree.

    Also, you said if you finish it, you'll have 50-60% more into it than a "driver". In your previous post, you said that the parts and build plan for this car was not a driver but "the one", so the 50-60% + would be expected per your plan.

    Or, get drunk and get laid tonight. Tomorrow is a new day...
     
  18. henry29
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    This thread really seems a little childish to me, pics or no pics anyone who see this thread and knows who you are can pretty well figure it out.

    A nice 2 dr 56 is worth more than 20,000.

    Why Is it you can't stand to look at it? Why would your dad not want you to sell it?
    Why would you just have it painted if you had no intentions of finishing it?
    Why not just sell it to your dad?
     
  19. Butch Clay
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    It's funny how the human mind works. The car is absolutely irrelevant to any problem. If you want a daily driver put it back together on a budget and drive it.

    It's supposed to be fun. If I were working on a DeSoto or a 61 truck it wouldn't matter to me, because the fun is in the "action", the doing, the participation in something bigger than yourself.

    Unfortunately the mind is a strange beast. Imagine how cool it would be if yesterday didn't exist. I've seen it written thousands of times "live life for today, not yesterday or tomorrow" and how many people follow that advice? It's unfortunate as hell. You're so tainted by yesterday it's getting in the way of today. It's getting in the way of "now".

    Fact is, you have an awesome car. But your so hooked on things that don't matter you can't see it. It's definitely there, you just can't see it.

    Let's suppose you sold it. And let's suppose you bought a different car. What happens when you're 1/2 way done with it? Will it be tainted also?

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  20. Here's what I'm getting from your posts

    It's not going to be perfect

    Too much $$$ in for a driver/ You've built drivers for less more than once

    Not perfect...they never are. EVERY car has flaws, it's how well they're addressed that matters

    Too much $$$ in/You've built for less before...it's not 1980 anymore..or 1990, or even 2000. Everything costs more these days. What used to be a large budget is now not so large. Is the money the issue? Personally, it kills me that I can't really afford/justify the expenditure to buy the very same cars I drove in high school. Cars of the same condition today are many times more than what I paid then...but I still look, because you never know when the right deal is coming down the road. Having kids later in life makes it a lot harder to spend the $$$, but for the right one....

    I've owned a LOT of cars in my time, VERY few would be candidates for the "I don't miss them" file. Put it aside for a while...in a few months, if you still aren't interested, talk with your Dad or somebody that isn't as invested in the car to help you figure out what's wrong and the best course of action to resolve it.
     
  21. I can't believe I read 3 pages of this...
    But since I did and its on the Hamb asking for opinions- well here's mine.

    Sentimental value actually means it has an inflated irreplaceable value to you only.
    Sentimental cant be p***ed to the new owner nor will the pay for it. History they will pay for. So put an actual dollar value to your sentimental value and subtract it from the equation and kiss it goodbye & never speak of it again.

    You need to talk with your dad about the car. I don't know what you guts need to talk about but you two do. If its your car, do what you want. If its his car do what he wants.
    Dads are worth talking to, I miss talking to mine.

    The only way you have a remote chance to get your money back is to restore it stock.
    If you part it out you might get close to what you have. You know sell the FB seats to a FB guy but hopefully he wants them because you covered them correctly.

    Next time you start a project- figure the cost first and be sure it's doable before you start. Then pray nothing gets in the way before its done.
     
  22. unkledaddy
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    Dear Abby
     
  23. midnightrider78
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    I couldn't care less about what is in style(most of what is in style currently makes me want to puke). I have been trying to build the car to the way it looked about the time I was born.
    My Dad is not on this board, however a few members have close friends/relatives that he has known for 40 plus years which is why I don't want to get too specific about the car.
     
  24. tfeverfred
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    Yea, it's reached that point. The answer to the problem was on page 1.
     
  25. midnightrider78
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    Funny and sad all at the same time.
     
  26. seb fontana
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    I have read this all through now is near the end of the third page..I think I am confused, but sounds like a fish story.....If you are an adult, what on earth does your father have to do with it? You don't care about style, wanted to build it like when you was a kid but are bothered by spending more than 10k on a driver? I think this sounds like you are fishing for someone to step up and give you large amount of money cause you oue money to someone for the build?..This story reminds me of a certain "t" story..Maybe you could sell T shirts or signed models to make money to finish the car...
     
  27. KRB52
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    Then make it the way you would like it, within reason. Obsessing over the "perfect" car can drive you nuts. Do it the best you can, "git 'er done" then step back and look at what you have. You never state whether you are building a "show" car or a driver; if you were going for the award winning show car, you should have realized that those cost six or seven times the $10K or less you have spent in the past. If you want the car to look like it just rolled off the ***embly line, give it a try, just remember that NONE of the ones off the line were perfect. Each one has something that was not quite right or a little off from all of the others built that day. Yours will be no different.
     
  28. 50dodge4x4
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    So exactly how many tri-five Chevys are in Ankey Iowa? I think your cover is already blown.

    If you want your money back, you will have to make it run/ drive. Doesn't have to be finished, but it will need to drive up on the trailer. Put the stuff you already have together as a drivable project and send it away. I wonder if you are building this, or paying someone else to build it, I could see wanting to pull the plug if you paying someone to put this thing together.

    Just because it may be past what you think a driver should be built for (and you have already built a few for less), were the other cars as valuable to begin with? I've built a lot of great drivers for less then 10 G, but none of them were tri-five Chevys either. It would be pretty silly to expect to build a driver 32 Ford coupe for 10G wouldn't it?

    Sell your car, or keep it, but quit mixing things from the past with the present. Today is a different day then yesterday was. Call you dad and tell him your thinking about selling your Chevy, see what he thinks instead of presuming you know. Gene
     
  29. midnightrider78
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    The reason I am concerned about my Dad's opinion is because the first time this car was hot-rodded it was done by him before I was born. So he has a connection to this car as well.

    As stated several times before, I was originally building this car to be "the one". If it ends up as merely a driver, that would be fine(were it not for the money). But I truly believe I should not need to spend more than 10k on a "driver"(I am just finishing a Ford Falcon and am well under that figure). I do not owe anyone anything on this project as I have done the bulk of the labor myself.
     
  30. Butch Clay
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    This thread is insane

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