Technical Is this a T5 transmission?

I have been on the hunt for a T5 transmission to possibly convert my 40 Ford. I found one and the guy says it is out of an 83 S-10. However I am not so sure it is actually a T5. The bell housing is part of the transmission. Before I shell out $300 ( is that a good deal?) I want to make sure it is actually an T5. My inexperience says it’s not. See photos.

oh, and the guy was kind of pressed for time so I could not find any numbers or tag identifying it.

 

Definitely not a T5. That looks like the light duty 4 speed built by Isuzu.

 

oh, yeah, I was going to mention I could only find four gears when shifting it.

 

NV3500 or HM290 - both outdated junk

 

dang. I’ll keep searching.

 

is it v6 chevy?

 

It’s a v6 something. I didn’t look at the motor close enough to even try to identify it.

 

From the look of the distributor on the back of the engine, I'd say yes. An early 2.8.

 

In my best Crocodile Dundee voice;
"that's not a T-5, this is a T-5"

 

S10 Blazer - 16 Bodystyle (2WD)
S10 Blazer - 16 Bodystyle (2WD) manual transmission - Search Images

 

Integral bellhousing = never a T5. Pass on it.

 

Nobby, that looks just like it. Did the 4x4 s10’s use a different transmission?

 

Yes, because they had to bolt up to the transfer case.

 

Seems the seller was off not only on the type of transmission, but missed the years by 20.

Edit: I thought it was mentioned as a ‘99-‘0? 4 speed. Must have confused the post.

 

What you want is one from a 83-93 4 cylinder s 10 or sonoma 2 wheel drive.do you have your adapter yet? they do come in the "ford" bolt pattern as well,if that is what you have the 94-95 one will fit it as well as the ones from the mustangs from 83-93.Take a look at the vern tardel website there is a lot of good info there,make sure you get the one you want because it is hard to return one from a private sale.The mustang ones put the shifter back further in the floor,almost under the seat in some cars,that is something to be aware of too.

 

that is a 1983 up 4 speed transmission, rare and fitted to 2wd blazers
it would be the same front case with a 4wd tail for 4wd.

It has only half peaked my interest as it looks like a European ford mt75 V6 transmission, that goes behind a ford v6 cologne engine.
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So I’m looking at a 86 S-10. Engine bad. Guy says it shifted fine before he had engine issues (like butter, his words) but has a blown engine. Won’t sell just the trans. $400 for the full car. Is this the right trans (assuming it’s stock)? I’m waiting on photos from him but it looks like it’s a 4x4 truck. Does that kill my deal?

edit. Got some photos. Numbers are 13 52 066 907 and it says borg warner. Looks like a t5 to me?

 

http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Borg-Warner-T5-ID-Tags.htm

Not on the list, but it is a T5. If you want to run a closed drive, a 4x4 is what you want. Is there a transfer case attached, or does it have a slip joint?

You can check with Dave and see if he is still making the adapters for a closed drive.

https://vintagemetalworks.blogspot.com/

 

I don’t know about the xfer case but I assume so. The car is 4 hours away from me so I have not seen it in person and only have those two photos of the trans. Good to know I can keep it closed drive if I choose! I didn’t know that was potentially an option.

 

If it is attached to the transfer case, can I run an open drive or will I have to change out the snout?

 

the #s 13 52 above identify it as a T-5. An '85 would have a mechanical output for the speedo since digital dashes weren't an option toll 89 and standard in 90 (electronic speedo outputs on the tail shaft. Most of the pre 89 trannys were 4.03 first gear. The more desirable 3.78 first gear was found in the WC and the non WC after '89.

 

May want to HAMB search for Flat Ernie’s thread.
I’ll see if I can find it.

Edit:
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/tech-ultimate-t-5-article.171291/

 

You will Want a World Class BW T5 transmission.

World Class T5 is a transmission that was introduced in 1985 on Ford Mustangs and on year 1993 for S10 pickups!

H. A. M. B. search findings -

LINK - https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/tech-ultimate-t-5-article.171291/

 

Why the heck didn’t I think of posting the link in my reply, or, wait…

 

...and why would he have to have a WC? Do you think that his big bad flathead is going to be too much for a NWC? The chances of him finding that one year transmission are slim to none. Yes, you can mix and match F body T5 and S10 T5 parts to get what you need, but given the age of these transmissions, it's getting harder to find them for a reasonable price every day.

 

When you find a transmission, row it throw the gears to make sure it is a 5 speed. The T4 looks the same from the outside.

 

Alright y'all I need your opinion. The S10 I found is 4 hours away which means a full day gone for me. Then I have to figure out what to do with the truck once I pull the transmission. I definitely do not have space for it to sit here long. (like a month tops...I may just scrap it if I buy it). Are S10 parts and frame worth anything to hot rodders? It is an 86 with T5. He will only sell me the whole truck. Engine is bad. Is it worth $400 and a full day of my time (wife not stoked...but they never are haha) for this year transmission? I like the fact that the guy drove the truck and "knows" it's at least working and doesn't have major issues. His son drove the truck until the engine started having problems. I'm torn.

 

I don't know how prevalent S10 T5s are in your area, but around here, you could find one for less than $400+a day's work+dragging a truck that you don't want home+removing it from said truck.

 

No, not IMHO. Be patient, one will turn up.

Around here, used T5s seem to be in the $350-$600 range, so $400 for an S-10 version is fair. You can always source a GM F-body version, and switch out the tailhousing ($230) and shift rail ($15) as needed.

BTW, which engine are you using in your '40 with the T5? If you are using a SBC, consider using the NV3500 5-speed (found in '96(?) and up S-series trucks) instead.

 

IF you really want to run an enclosed drive AND you understand that it entails more than simply buying the trans then it may be worth the money and hassle. But if you don't know what drive line configuration you want (enclosed or otherwise) I would figure that out first and buy the appropriate T5. There is a bit to know about them to make sure you get what you need, WC, NWC, different shifter locations, cable vs electronic speedo, mounting tab hole location differences between W.C and NWC (important if buying an adapter). There is a ton of good info on here so I would suggest doing some reading and planning before buying anything. And....like someone mentioned before, watch out for T4's. They look like a T5, will work fine also but they won't have the 5th gear overdrive.