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Technical I've been asked to spray Hotrod Flats any help?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by bowlingball, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
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    flatheadpete
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    from Burton, MI

    I sprayed my '50 Ford sedan in their med blue in 2011...outside in my driveway. Still looks decent (it's the first car I've sprayed since 1995). No rust-through. The color is still true. I may try to repaint it a different color next summer...we'll see.
     
  2. brokedownbiker
    Joined: Jun 7, 2016
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    I am no painter, all I can offer is my personal experience.
    I like the flat look myself. I had a OT truck done in black Flatz and, while it came out looking good, it showed every little scratch and bump and there is no real way to touch it up; add that to the fact that it seemed to get kind of chalky looking after a couple of years. My next paint job will be flat but I'll have the painter flatten the clear-coat, I want the protection (physical and UV) of a clear-coat over the color. It will probably look more matte or satin than flat but that is fine with me.
     
  3. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
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    I believe it is shopline Omni by DuPont with flattener added. I used it on the lower half of the produce truck with no issues.
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  4. K13
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    Shopline and Omni are PPG products
     
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  5. blowby
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    from Nicasio Ca

    I'm with you on both counts. Hope to paint my heap this spring. Don't like washing, don't show it, just like driving. Couple things I wonder about though. In black primer, as it is now, if you get dust, oil, dirt or bird **** on it, it's pretty much stuck on there, no wiping it off, has to be washed. The Blitz being a top coat I guess has the ability to wipe stuff off? And being able to spot repair would be nice, sounds like that's out. I've actually been considering lacquer for that reason, and I suppose lacquer could be sanded with 2000 and not rubbed out for a flat look.

    Moose photoshopped mine in a color I like, I'm thinking in terms of being an old truck it might look pretty good flat. Most folks tell me just leave it black primer but that has it's aforementioned problems, plus it doesn't stay dark black.

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  6. bowlingball
    Joined: Oct 24, 2008
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    from Australia

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    It's actually for the same type of ute as in my avatar, I buy and sell a few of these Utes as a sideline , they're easy to find over here,The buyer want me to paint it for him,, I wasn't sure of the color choice but your COE has similar curves and it looks great
    Thanks to everyone for your inputs and comments
     
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  7. jazz1
    Joined: Apr 30, 2011
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    Another option is shooting with a base coat only. Only half the shine. I bought a can of mismatch and sprayed this OT daily as most the paint had baked off. It was a $400 can of paint for $100 with the additives. Mismatches are a great deal if they have a colour to your liking, I just want to cover "patina"
     

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  8. RidingMechanic
    Joined: Jul 31, 2017
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    from Cincinnati

    Glasurit has 2 matte clears that are pretty much bulletproof, 923-55 and 923-57. One is more matte than the other.
    I used to use Delstar enamel - what used to be called 70/30 semi gloss - but started having issues with the flattening agent going bad in storage. Other products like Eastwood's ch***is black do it too. I keep getting specks that look like very fine sand that won't filter out...So I started doing all my semi gloss in basecoat black with matte clear over it. A little more expensive but the gloss is consistent and its tough stuff.

    Downside is a quart with hardener is about $200 USD.

    Biggest potential problem with semigloss is dirt. Not much you can do to correct it once its in the finish.

    A while back I tried sanding and polishing some generic "hot rod black" semi gloss enamel and it buffed up to an 80% or 90% gloss...Not super glossy and not a lot of depth to the reflection - looks kind of like old lacquer. Might look good on a survivor car where really shiny paint would stand out against old chrome and stainless.

    Hope that helps a little.

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  9. jimgoetz
    Joined: Sep 6, 2013
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    My son wanted his old shovel head painted a flat maroon and I had some old left over acrylic enamel so I used it with a flattening agent. It looked good but I don't know how well it held up because he didn't keep it very long.
     
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  10. Dangerous Dan
    Joined: Jul 10, 2011
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    You only get one shot with flat paint of any kind, don't **** it up or you will be doing a lot of sanding for a reshoot. Don't ask me how I know.
     
  11. Gman0046
    Joined: Jul 24, 2005
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    I'm no longer into the suede look but the last one I did was Sikkens black base coat and flattner in the clear. Held up great and was easy to keep clean and remove bugs, sap and bird ****. Turtle Wax makes a spray detailer for black cars that kept it looking good.
     

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