Technical Juice Brakes on Model A Banjo?

Full disclosure; this is not the first time I have asked this question but it’s been awhile. I want to install “Bendix” style juice brakes on an otherwise stock Model A Banjo without increasing the track width
I know that the ‘40 style Lockheed brakes will work and have plenty of stopping power but I really am hoping to use Bendix brakes.
“Lincoln” 12” brakes add 1 1/4” width on each side and I don’t have room inside the fenders for that.
The challenge is that both the mechanical brakes and the Lockheed brakes use a backing plate that is significantly offset towards center of the axle but I have been unable to find a Bendix backing plate like that.

 

Wonder what happened to the idea of using Boling Bros rear brakes, direct to the axle (with-out the spacer they send in the A rear kit) along with original '40 style hubs and either Ford or Boling Bros drums.

Numbers we came up with; looked to be stock width with Ford drums and maybe 3/16" wider with the thicker cast repop drums.

Or am I missing something?

 

I bought the Speedway self-energizing backing plates to fit on my 1928/29 Model A rear axle. To make them fit, I had to cut the spring perches off which I didn’t need anyways. Not sure if this info helps, but thought I would share my experience.

 

Unfortunately I need the spring perch (at least for now).

 

Rich, it’s not possible to use the BB backing plate without that spacer because the spring perch is in the way. The Model a brakes and the ‘40 type brakes use a deep offset. The brake shoes are well back toward the differential then you would think

 

I believe that I am grasping at straws at this point, I don’t think that what I want exists.

 

Maybe the Speedway Bendix style Lockheed plates would fit upside down like people do with regular Lockheed plates (another way some guys rotate the Lockheed plates back about 15 or so degrees).

 

Seems like a lot of extra work to flip them upside down ...what happens if you just cut a notch for the spring perch in the backing plate @ stock orientation @RICH B ?

 

@‘28 RPU I think all you need to do is go forward a few years...the brake size and width are the same up to '66 I believe but in like '62-3 or 4 they went to self adjusting...should be able to adapt those B/Ps or spindles

 

My first experience was with 46-48 brakes on a model A. The standard method in the early 1960s was to flip them upside down and swap left with right so the emergency cable was facing forward. I recall the wheel cylinders were kept on their original sides. No need to cut the spring perch at all. Pretty much as RICH B posted above.

 

Won't go on straight up; but rotated back some along with a notch works; but the e-brake tubes aim up in an odd direction.

 

Possie has a spring #29-31R which is made for a perch width of 46 1/2 inches.
Stock is 48 1/2 inches to 49 1/2inches. Should be able to move your perch in 1" to 1 1/2" per side.