I am going to send all of these Coppers and their nice Ford roadsters out to check out what these Red Necks have stuffed into those crates on their Zoo on wheels. If you are interested, I have established a Motel T Racing thread over at the New Ford Barn. I plan on covering as much T racing info as I can find and hope you might join in. Please post anything T racing you might have. Check it out I think you might be amazed by all of the speed equipment that was manufactured for them. http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3723
Not sure if the photo will post but this car was designed after the Drummond car that won the Pikes Peak race in 22 It had a dual cam Frontenac or Fronty in it. It was built for the Long Beach or Signal Hill hillclimb. This was sent to me by Seth Hammond the owner/builder. I had met him at the "Gasup" in Buellton in 1999. I believe the original article from Hot Rod magazine, September 1975 was in color.
I took my car for a 70 mile drive yesterday, everything went pretty well I found out that it doesnt like running 60mph for very long or the temp creeps up, slow to 45-50 for a while and it cools back down I didnt think that was to bad considering the block is .100 over and still fairly tight, sure wish it had a quickchange or an OD, the new motor sounds great though and didnt have any issues other than the starter bendix quit when I got back home, good shakedown
Seth still owns the car, it is a wall hanging in his office, I'd like to see a photo of that. He and his wife have both turned 300+MPH at Bonneville in a Streamliner.
I am going to guess that this has been posted before. But maybe some missed it. http://www.milleroffy.com/Photo & Sound Gallery.htm
Heres some more from the article. The rods are billet 7075, the crank is what we/they call a "C". The pan shows some of the plumbing. The rack is shop made and the head shows the combustion chamber and relative valve size.
I don't smoke but I think I have too start....SHHHHWWWIIIIIINNNGGGGGGG Sorry but we need more pics thanks Bill
That's Poteet's "Miller Hauler"- there was a big love/hate thread on it when the car debuted... whether you like it or not, fantastic engine and craftsmanship!
I love the engine and holes...the craftsmanship is top notch. Over done with too much stuff going on for me. If Poteet wants do give it to me I can fix it.
Bang-Er; wow that made searching for this thread hard. A friend of a friend has this original picture, I just got the copy pictured below. I thought the folks on the banger thread would enjoy it too. I'm sorry that the pictures aren't that great but it is a hard size to photograph (39"x7"). The newest car I recognize in the background is a 28-29 Model A The picture says 100 mile 4th of July races ElPaso, Ills.
Hey guys, lets get techo I'm starting to collect bits for a new Banger to replace the standard A in the 27 Roadster I'm working on. It'll be a while before I have the cash and all the bits together, but basically its gonna be a B block and counterweighted crank, aftermarket rods, inserted, full presure, twin 97 on Thomas manifold, Thomas head, fairly wild cam and matching valvetrain. I have LOADS of tech questions, but here is one for now The techo subject ....... is Ignition SO.....ignoring the ignition hardware, lets talk advance, and more specifically advance curves. I figure the starting point is something like: 9-10 degrees initial 30 degrees total, all in by about 4000 rpm But how much vacum (load) triggered advance do we need in the lower to mid range and what sort of curve ..... I'm guessing it needs to load up advance fairly quick......maybe 22 - 23 degrees by about 2000 Am I in the ball park? How much advance can a Banger handle in the 1500 to 2500 range? Anyone have some experience/numbers to share ? EDIT: When I said "ignore hardware" I meant "assume a fully programable dissy, with total control over advance on 500 rpm increments, and same for vacume advance" ....no it's not very nostalgic, but it will be hiding in a WILCO mag case
I would like to see that... that would be cool. Do you have any pics. ? You dont see to many laptops on the front seats of 27Ts with a banger
Well OK, as long as we can talk ignition curve settings afterwards Here is a picture of the source of the gizzards......sorry about the right margin moving to another continent ...... The plan is to use the Gizzards from one of these (circuit board and magnet) and transplant them inside a dead WICO mag case. Then I would have a cool looking early mag, with modern electronics, and the only people whould know would be you, me, and the other 4 million people that read this thread....... They do a bunch of versions of the above electronic dizzy, but they fall into two categories: Some have 16 pre-configured but user selectable advance curves; whilst others have a usb port on the side so you can plug in a laptop and create your own. The top of the range one has the works ........ you can program two seperate curves and switch between them on the fly, and you can program base advance, any number of rpm based advance plots + any number of vacume based plots + a rpm cutout (soft rev limiter) It can even do positive or negative earth, autosenses 6 or 12 volt, autosenses rotation direction.....and can order pizza and beer YEP ...... it costs a bit NOW, lets talk advance characteristics (yes I know having a USB port on a WICO mag would kind of give the game away)
I find all of this "high Tech" stuff very interesting. My engine with the repop Winfield "Crows Foot head utilizes a stock "B' distributor with stock off the shelf points and condenser and as previously stated a coil from a ford tractor. The only figure I have was after a quick check at 1100 Rpm's was 20 degrees advance due to some "shade tree" modifications to the weights and springs. I don't know the total advance but it starts with out kicking back and doesn't seem to detonate.. I frequently read these scholarly discussions on flame fronts and design of flathead combustion chambers bearing loads and all sorts of plans and schemes to redesign the wheel along with the advance curve. To me the thing that counts is/are the results. The results of my crude engineering are 82.7 MPH with an ET of 15.9 in the 1/4 mile.
you and bruce langcaster are my favorite hambers for info on bangers and flattys. i can always count on answers without sarcasm...which is nice but i am surprised that the tech guy let you run with that much rubber line tk
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