Technical Just a heads up about steering components

Well, I ordered the AC Delco Gold ones, we’ll see. Only ones in stock and I’d like to get them in before I head back to work.
But if they come in casted, back they go and I’ll wait for the Detroit speed ones.

 

I suppose if you consider the ingots from which forged parts are made to be the "cast" form of the part.

Something such as a tie rod end or steering arm isn't going to be "pre-cast" in an oversized state and then forged to final shape.

 

****er

 

Something doesn't make sense on Moogs material. 16MnCr5 is not equivalent to SAE 1040. The former is a low carbon steel and the latter is high carbon steel. Not at all alike.
16MnCr5 is more like SAE 5115 steel.

I believe you made the right choice tossing then back...

 

Smoke and mirrors.

 

I too quite buying Moog parts about 15 - 20 years ago. They have not been a high quality manufacturer for a long time. They certainly are not worth a premium price.

The weak point on a tie rod end is not the formed steel/cast part, its the ball end. I have seen cheap tie rods ends bent to nearly 90 degrees without the steel/cast end itself failing. The ball end is a different story. I've even had one that broke the stud off just below the nut.

 

Unfortunately, Moog is just a name on a box today. What you receive inside is a **** shoot. If Moog was still US made, I’d happily pay the difference.

 

IIRC, Magnum had a problem with their axles. There were several failures, after only a few miles,
that were well do***ented online. Including one broken leg. Most likely, wrong material was used
in casting. And now, Magnum is gone. Super Bell has had a few of their spindles break.

Can you run cast suspension parts, safely ? Yes, for sure.
But they need to be made of the correct material, and designed accordingly.

 

I think everyone would know if moog components had issues. Lots of lawyers

 

True. But saying forged and being cast isn’t a good thing. Had there been no mentioned of “quality forged steel **x” I’d had not even given it a thought.

 

Current Moog parts are just as junky as the rest of the off shore parts sold today.