KBS Coatings - Rust Preventive Paint

My name is Ben. And I work for KBS Coatings. We sold the old brand for many years and made the switch to KBS Coatings a few years ago. We were very discouraged by all of the price increases and lack of support for their product.

So, after very careful consideration, we made the switch to KBS Coatings. KBS Coatings was started by the guy who worked for the old brand and really knew the product. He took what the old tired brand had and made it better. The old brand is not a bad product. It is just that we took their roof and made it our foundation. We believe in continually making better products.

Please feel free to ask me any questions. I am more than willing to answer your questions and make you confident that KBS will work for you.

Also, we are offering 10% off to all Jalopy Journal Members. Just use the coupon code "JJ10" when checking out online or mention it when you call to place your order.

Ben - KBS Coatings

 

Hey, Ben--welcome aboard. I'll personally vouch for KBS, as I just used it on my Fleetline's chassis. Glad to see you guys supporting the HAMB.

 

Hi Ben, welcome. However there is a stiff rule about vendors posting. If your offering a discount, you might as well become an Alliance Vendor. PM Ryan for details.

 

I see you make spam, too. ha! just kidding. Is KBS sold in stores? HOW is it better than POR15?

 

Where can I get the stuff.

 

Yes ... KBS Coatings is sold in stores. You can find the list of stores HERE. The list continues to grow, so check back if you do not find a store near you. We also ship all of our products the same business day you order, so no matter where you are, you will get your order within 4 business days.

KBS RustSeal vs. The old brand:

• Less expensive. For example, almost $8 less expensive for a quart of RustSeal.
• Easier to topcoat. We know that many people use KBS RustSeal as a primer, so we made it easier to topcoat.
• Richer pigments which we believe provides much better coverage.
• Choice of colors ... KBS RustSeal come in 10 different colors.
• Brush marks flow out to leave you with a beautiful smooth finish.

One of the guys that started KBS Coatings used to work for the old brand. He was forced out ... so he started KBS Coatings because he wanted to provide consumers with the best rust preventive paint possible. KBS Coatings just took what they had and made it better. Try it for yourself...money back guarantee!!

Please let me know if you have any more questions.

Ben - KBS Coatings

 

Just ordered in 4 quarts couple days ago... I've sprayed a quart before and had good luck with it.

 

Hey i got a couple of quick questions what package would you recommend for doing the frame of a very rusted truck. I would use the extras on the bumpers and what not but im torn between the chassis kit or the frame kit. Im not worried about the Rust Seal as much as the prepping agents for them.

Also in the back the frame is push through rot on the sides right before the drivers side rear tire. I am already making arrangements for that to be boxed off and reinforced but would it be a good idea to coat the frame first, and try and get a good amount inside the frame hole as well as the outside>?

As for applying a top coat, my whole trucks theme is flat black with a semi gloss racing stripe.

But since i am on a college budget i will prolly be using Krylon or some other type of generic spray paint (Don't laugh too hard, just trying to make a $600 truck dependable and not too ugly), But some of the frame is exposed to light so when would be the best time to apply it? I know por 15 said when it was still tackie, is it the same for the kbs? Do you strongly disagree with my spray paint top coat? Would enamel or "rust proof spray paint" be a decent idea to be a top coat in flat black?


Thanks for your help, I look forward to using this stuff a little later in the month. This weeks task is to get the head gasket on and the head back from Nappa's machine shop!


Quick add on, would it be worth covering the hole in the frame with the mesh-ish backbone fiberglass like stuff after putting some kbs on the inside, then marking the frame where to box out, and reinforce for the welder?
-Joe D

 

Yes. That would be an excellent idea. A lot of people use our Underseal Gun and Probe to spray inside the frame: http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Underseal-Spray-Gun-Probe_p_10-37.html

No. That would be fine. Just make sure it is as tough as you can get.

4-12 hours after the second coat of RustSeal.

Yes. Same time frame. Remember finger drag.

Go with the toughest coating you can get.

No. That would be like putting a band-aide on it. Just make sure you use the kit including the AquaKlean and RustBlast after the welder is done.

As always, please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Ben

 

P.S. I'm a dealer, an alliance member and do offer a 10% discount to HAMB members. Listings are on my site (see signature)

 

I have a gas tank with gas that has been sitting for about 12 years. I am pretty sure it isn't rusty but just full of varnish. Will AquaKlean do a good job of cleaning it? In the past I've had to use such things as acid to get it off.

If this would work and be more user friendly, I would try it. I just don't want a product that fails on the salesman's promise.

If this would work, what is the procedure? How do I dispose of it?

How does it compare to POR Marine Clean?

 

Man is this the week for ancient threads? Good topic but with 3 posts since 2007 I bet the OG poster isn't even around anymore.

I have had good luck with a couple gallons of ethanol or race gas to remove varnish.

 

BEWARE of this stuff....

I spent a few hundred dollars using the entire product line
to clean - prep - paint my trailer ....

The prep products are nasty shit
I used double layer gloves at all times yet after 8 months
I still have a NASTY chemical rash on my hands

I would rate the product as 'satisfactory' BUT ....
wear some steel gloves if you are going to use it


Jim

 

I'm trying to find something that will clean up the tank but is easily disposed. The only thing I've had success with in the past is acid but that removes the galvanizing on the inside of the tank.

I wouldn't know where to get ethanol or race fuel around here and I definitely wouldn't know how to get rid of it.

Any other ideas?

 

Crazy that I found this topic with a google search and the activity it's had the past few days! Cue the twilight zone music. The site is still there. I wonder if he still honors the discount? It cancels out the shipping price.

 

We always provide gloves with all of our Restoration Kits. We have never heard of a rash lasting 8 months before. I have used our AquaKlean without gloves and my hands did get really dry and itching for a few days, but that was all. But, like I said, we always recommend using gloves and we provide some high quality gloves in all of our kits.

 

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http://www.kbs-coatings.com/index.html

 

I've used KBS on my truck and definitely liked it better than POR15.

Wish they were an Alliance Vendor. How about it?

 

Yes. AquaKlean does a great job of cleaning out varnish. Here are some detailed directions for how to do that:

1) Drain fuel from tank. Proper fuel tank sealing also requires that the tank be removed from the vehicle. Remove any fittings such as floats, sending units and filters.
2) Seal all openings with duct tape or cork-like stoppers.
3) Using a 1:1 dilution ratio, mix AquaKlean with hot water and pour mixture into tank. Let tank soak but always rotate it at intervals to ensure AquaKlean covers all surfaces. (NOTE: Heavy gum and varnish build-up may require extended soaking times up to 24 hours or more and/or the use of a pressure washer. Placing some nuts & bolts or loose chains inside the tank, along with frequent shaking and rotation, will help knock away loose rust and contaminants.)
4) Empty tank and repeat as often as necessary ... remember the cleaner the tank, the stronger the adhesion of the Tank Sealer.
5) After a thorough cleaning, rinse generously with water until the solution runs clear. Drain tank and let dry.
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Gold-Standard-Tank-Sealer-Information-Instructions_ep_39-1.html

 

I will look into that today. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

I was a dealer and offered/tried to be an alliance vendor for it but was ignored in the two applications I made here. Figured I wasn't big enough. I have offered discounts off retail equal to Alliance Vendors for these type of products.

These guys wanted dealers to push product, attend shows, etc, but weren't willing to do anything to help with it. Just another means of manufacturer/distributor pushing dealership to sell product. I was dropped from their site as a dealer and when I inquired about it, I never received a response. I liquidated my stock as it was a very slow selling product anyway and can't hardly give it away. It works, but POR-15 is basically the same and has much better name recognition (and from my understanding, better dealer support network)

 

Ben,
Two questions. I used to coat the inside of gas tanks with por-15 and never had any trouble. Then suddenly years later, it all started to come off. Was it the addition of alcohol to gas? Will KBS do the same? Next, can I tint white KBS using regular paint tint? Will it affect the rust proofing quality?
Jerry
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I can't speak for the other brands, but the alcohol blended fuels has indeed affected other coatings including Kreem products. We have blended resins to address this in our KBS Gold Standard tank sealer.
Yes, we have customers which tint our RustSeal white. Because RustSeal is a moisture cured product, use a solvent born tint only. Addition of the tint may shorten shelf.

 

JD, yes, manufacturers usually do request dealers to push product, attend shows, etc. Especially in 2007 when you placed your first & only product order. The name KBS was not as well known as it is today therefore needed you to do some work. Today, customers sell it for us at shows as Deadbird has here.
As far as the other old brand dealer support, here's a link from the KBS website for the KBS Reseller List:
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Find-a-KBS-Coatings-Reseller_ep_69-1.html

Show us all a similar link from the "old brand" website.

 

Kreem has sucked since it's inception...

 

I have used KBS on three tanks, one frame and one complete underside of my sedan. I was pretty happy with the product and will continue to use them.

 

Thanks for the feedback. Let us know if you have any questions in the future.

 

I have used KBS coatings both white and black and in both cases I get a very rough surface. I am painting in my cellar but the finish looks like it was done in a sand storm, I am using a brush and using the antirust product to remove mill scale.

 

I have a few questions about which KBS product to use. I'm going to have a fenderless and hoodless rod, which needs to resist UV. I was told that the Rust Seal and Blacktop coatings together would be perfect for the chassis as well as the engine (rather than using the enamel motorcoat).

Also, I was told that the Satin Finish is having major problems, and KBS is considering taking it off the market. Is this true? If it is, then how long has the gloss system been successful, as I don't want to work with a product in the testing period.

 

Will KBS Coating have a representative at Carlisle?