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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by redpunk, Oct 27, 2004.

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  1. I know this a big dollar car. But that doesnt take away from how freakin kool it is. I like the polished flames on the brushed aluminum too. I have not seen that before.. Heres a link to more on it also.
    http://www.westcoastmotorcars.com/vehicles.html
     

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  2. WOW, the craftsmanship blows me away.
     
  3. Dakota
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    i red about this car in a magazine, its been in this state a long time.

    They are making all the parts out of machineable plastic as a prototype first then making it out of steel/aluminum.

    the ch***is is made out of this oval tube that isnt even make, they cut it out of solid with a edm. its sick.

     
  4. 36couper
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    Now THAT is craftsmanship! I'd never let a drop of paint get near it.
     
  5. 62fairlane
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    saw a harley over the that had a bare steel tinwork that was blued with a torch and then the flames masked off adn DA'd leaving behind the flames in blued steel. then it was all clearcoated looked pretty slick.
     
  6. briggs&strattonChev
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    [ QUOTE ]
    the ch***is is made out of this oval tube that isnt even make, they cut it out of solid with a edm.

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    what does that mean?

    what do you mean, "it isnt even make"? also, whats an edm, a tool?
     
  7. Slag Kustom
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    i want one!!!!!!! can i get it with the whole body polished and the flames in brushed ?????
     
  8. fab32
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    EDM is a machining process where the metal is removed by arcing a carbon electrode against the piece being machined and the arc causing a small bit of metal to be gouged out. This takes place while the piece is submerged in a special oil. With this process you can machine a brokenstud out of a tapped hole and not ruin the female threads. The secret of precision is the machining of the electrode to the EXACT shape you want the cavity to be. I can't imagine using it to make tubing as the electrode would be enormusly expensive and the process is very slow. But isn't that what the Gold Chainers strive for(spending more than the next guy just to have bragging rights)? I also doubt it is as strong as regular seamless tubing as a great deal of the strengh there is derived from the pressure forming process (not unlike a forging).

    Frank
     
  9. fab32
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    Forgot to mention that EDM stands for Electro Discharge Machining
     
  10. Anderson
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    this post would have been just as effective were it just ***led "Kool Willys."

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    But isn't that what the Gold Chainers strive for(spending more than the next guy just to have bragging rights)?

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    give it a rest!!!!
     
  11. Blownolds
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    No kiddin'. You all would if you could, man-- this stuff is ART, made by master craftsmen.

     
  12. Johnny Sparkle
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    [ QUOTE ]
    EDM is a machining process where the metal is removed by arcing a carbon electrode against the piece being machined and the arc causing a small bit of metal to be gouged out. This takes place while the piece is submerged in a special oil. With this process you can machine a brokenstud out of a tapped hole and not ruin the female threads. The secret of precision is the machining of the electrode to the EXACT shape you want the cavity to be. I can't imagine using it to make tubing as the electrode would be enormusly expensive and the process is very slow. But isn't that what the Gold Chainers strive for(spending more than the next guy just to have bragging rights)? I also doubt it is as strong as regular seamless tubing as a great deal of the strengh there is derived from the pressure forming process (not unlike a forging).

    Frank

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    They probably used a wire EDM. You couldn't do it with carbon, there would be too much wear on the electrode and the length would be too much. For wire, all you need is a hole through the part for the wire to go through, and let the machine cut the shape you programmed. Granted, it's still quite time-consuming and expensive.
     
  13. chickenridgerods
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    Looks like round tube to me...

    ...but if the rails are indeed oval, they would have more likely been produced by a means other than EDM, such as drawing, swaging, etc.
     
  14. Unkl Ian
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    There are a few ways to make oval tubes,none of which involves EDM.


    If you look carefully,that ch***is is round tube.
    They refer to it as a "Cobra style ch***is".
    The 427 Cobras used large round tubes for the main frame rails.

    My question is,are those guys actually making their own bodies,
    or are they buying them from the giys in Poland,that also make the Aluminum Cobras.
     
  15. fuel pump
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    [ QUOTE ]
    this post would have been just as effective were it just ***led "Kool Willys."

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    Why are you so touchy about calling a spade a spade? It's obviously a high dollar car and that's what he called.
     
  16. Anderson
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    calling a space a spare? huh?

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    I know this a big dollar car. But that doesnt take away from how freakin kool it is.

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    My point is that who cares if it's a high dollar car. If it's cool in the first place, where is the need to make the "i know it's expensive, but..." excuse?

    hardly touchy. The "goldchainer" bs is getting old...If I happen to like something that's got a lot of money put into it, I don't see why I'd need to tone down that fact.
     
  17. fab32
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    I suspect there is someone here that's getting touchy, it shows in the posts. My comment on the goldchainers having to do something above and beyond is EXACTLY why we have these unobtanium show pieces. It's just someone who HAS the money giving the go-ahead to produce something that the m***es couldn't afford if they worked 4 jobs. I for one am glad we have these individuals, they pay the freight for something new (or percieved as new) in a one off fashion that attracts a LOT of attention. I've had the opportunity to see many of these cars and haven't yet seen one that I didn't get at least one idea that I could duplicate and use on a low dollar rod.
    If your going to get your ******* in a bunch over the use of the term Goldchainer, come up with another term. Maybe some other piece of over indulgence that so many of the people who build these cars and are never heard from again, have as part of their appearance not seen on the unwashed m***es. How about Diesel 4w Drive Dually 6 wheel trailer equiped with airconditioing, roof observation deck generator equiped sleeping quarters/ kitchen Automotive Event Participant? Naw!! That will never fly, it takes too long to type. We need something simple and to the point. I think I've got it. GOLDCHAINER!!!!!!
    Can you imagine a world with out sarcasm? Me neither.

    Frank

     
  18. Anderson
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    I couldn't care less about what term is used. It's peoples at***udes that gets me.

    BTW, appologies for hijacking this post, especially with an argument that no one will ever see eye to eye on. Those flames in the metal are cool...Reminds me of that awesome Caddy with the flames ground in the roof, then candied over.

    I just wonder why the whole issue of "gold chainer" had to be brought up? This post was about the craftsmanship and the unique features of a one-off car. Had nothing to do with anyone who may own it, whether they drive it or trailer it. Why are you so concerned with the people who spend their money on these cars?

    "Goldchainer" is as bad as "Rat Rod"
     
  19. C'mon guys......cant we all just agree that the only thing cooler than the work on this"automobile" would be if it were instead made of stainless and sold dirt cheap! [​IMG]
     
  20. Ryan
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    What the **** - are you guys 12? Ruined this post.
     
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