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  1. Newbomb Turk
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    Found this on another forum. You have to register to view that forum so i figured i'd just post the pic here for you guys to discuss. The guy found this pic in the trunk of a car he has. I thought it was cool. I'm not very good at prewar stuff, is that car a Tall T?

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  2. flatheadpete
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    Wow. Nice pic. Wonder who he is and where he's been or where's he's headed. Neat.
     
  3. Frank Carey
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    Car is definitely as Model-T Ford. Guy's uniform looks like World War I which ended in 1918. So car could be that year.
     
  4. Dough boy,,,WW1,,HRP
     
  5. tommy
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    How long did they keep that uniform after the war? The T coupe looks to me to be 20s. 25-26?
     
  6. arca39
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    i don't know about the ww1 era it look at the left shoulder area that was not on military uniforms back then, maybe police officer from the late teens to early 20's
     
  7. landseaandair
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    I'd guess the ford is a '23 or earlier. '24 and later didn't have suicide doors and the rifle looks to be a Springfield which would be WWI. Maybe the uniform could narrow it down more.
     
  8. Dave B.
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    OK, I'm no expert but here goes...

    The uniform appears to be the one that the Army started using in 1909, but it doesn't appear to have the modifications that the Army made during WWI.

    The 'T' has a black radiator with the rounded corners, so... I think that makes it a 1916 or later.

    Those two observations make me think that the photo is from 1916 or 1917.

    Hey... I've been wrong before! :rolleyes:
     
  9. VA HAMB
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    Im going with 1917ish. That T looks about that. Maybe 1918?
     
  10. SUNROOFCORD
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    The Suicide Doors on the "T" would put it somewhere between 1917 and 1922.
     
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  11. Moonglow2
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    I had an original 1923 roadster. This coupe looks like a 23 - 25 to me. A 26 and 27 look much different. Find out when they stopped making T's with brass radiators known as copperheads and it will be between then and 25.
     
  12. I asked a mate that is more knowledgeable than me on US Uniforms and he seems to think its about 20-22, but some idiot forgot to ask him why he thought that............
    I will have to e-mail him again. Dont ask why either of us are up at 5am either on opposite sides of the country.

    Doc.
     
  13. LAROKE
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    Assumption is the mother of all screw-ups.

    It may be a former doughboy posing in his uniform later on like this pic of my great uncle and my grandfather taken in the early twenties.

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  14. LAROKE
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    OOPS! I didn't see the guy in the background. Nebbermind.
     
  15. Good point, when I was a kid I cut a lawn for a WWI vet, still had his uniform in the shed, I found out whenI was talking to him about joining the Army (At like 12). He asked me to come back later, I did, he was in full uniform! I should have listened to that man and kept right away from the Army. Now I understand what he meant, why you spend the rest of your life at one time and point never moving on. Right then he was 21 and in southern France.
    Fuckit, I miss that old man.
    Doc.
     
  16. RichG
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    The picture below is from a military museum, if you look it's dead-on for the man in the picture, that said it's definitely WWI. The building in the background look like a barrack and maybe a command post. Notice the wooden boardwalk, no concrete.

    By the way, the site I found this on has some excellent pics of all different uniforms and equipment, just in case you're a geek like me and find this stuff interesting:D

    http://www.brusselspictures.com/cinquantenaire/musee-royal-de-larmee/
     

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  17. squirrel
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    The buildings look older than the WWII "temporary" building I worked in during the 1980s :)
     
  18. jimi'shemi291
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    Sure looks like the '03 Springfield rifle to me. Given the fella's age at the time, I doubt it was a years-later shot. The setting appears to be in a training camp, and the guys drilled a bunch but STILL had tons of time to kill (that's the military). They were ALL macho and wanted to go show Kaiser Bill the end of a long bayonette. (I know, 'cause I have a relative's camp diary.) It was common in camp to get a photo of yourself to send to folks at home. Many guys were bitterly disappointed when the Armistice ended that AWFUL war & they couldn't ship out and prove their manhood, as their Civil War and Spanish American War relatives had done.

    My WAG is that this is a 1917 or 1918 pic. I have to think the tall Ford-T is what others have speculated: 1918 or a bit earlier. (But, then, Ts didn't change much until '27/'28.)
     
  19. SUNROOFCORD
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    1923-1925 did not have the suicide doors. Also note the oval rear window in the original picture. There were no Model "T's in 1928. That was the first year for the "A". I have my Dads late 1927 "T' Roadster

    1924 Ford Model T Coupe
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    The picture in the attachment is identified as a '19 but it is not a positive I.D.
     

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  20. Dago Red
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    It looks like there is a cloth backing on the left collar disk. I have a dim recollection that those were not seen until the Occupation, and then only rarely. The unauthorized pin on his left chest also makes me think it's post-war. The lack of overseas stripes may indicate that he was in a stateside unit, or that this is immediately after his return to the US. It does look like the 1912 pattern tunic, but those remained in service even after the war, especially in units that did not make it overseas.
     
  21. SUNROOFCORD
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    This picture is identified as a 1922 from 1947.

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  22. need louvers ?
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    As far as I know "T"'s had suicide doors until '21. My guess would be about '18 or '19 WW1
     
  23. SUNROOFCORD
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  24. Newbomb Turk
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    Bump for the night crowd.
     
  25. its 1918 to 1920 would be my guess. do i get a candy bar now and do i have to share it with the other correct entries? lol.
     

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