Let's talk about old Ford colors again

I know we have discussed this before but I still haven't gotten a suitable answer. I have 2 colors in mind for the 36 and they are both factory Ford colors from the 30's -40's. I need help on converting the 2 to modern formulas.

The first one was the Navy Blue they used and the other was a later color say....1946-48? It was the maroon or deep red used on a lot of the coupes, convertibles I believe.
Who can I contact to get this info. I know we have covered it before but I think this would be a good one for the Tech-o-matic if we can get some solid info.

Thanks in advance.
Root

 

Ive got all the books right here do you have any more info ? color name - exact years??

 

Good request, Root. I am looking for the paint code for the green seen on early cars like the one seen on this coupe.
I actually like a little more "Avacado" than this though....

 

Chris, if you can get the paint code, any good color store should be able to arrive at a close formulation.

I use Spies-Hecker and the distributor can reference any paint code ever published or created by any other paint distributor, such as Ditzler, Dupont, Marten-Senour,PPG and so forth.

I am not promoting Spies-Hecker, but they have an excellent product and one hardner works with each product. As in primer surfacer and baxe coat..

 

The Blue was George Washington blue, and is still in the color books as a commercial color

 

Washington Blue, your paint guy can find the code.

 

PPG made an early Ford color chip book (from model A's-thru V8's. I have one somewhere.) I would take it to the paint supplier and match a color chip in the book to some more modern finish/formula. A lot of paint companies have color books (colormap) with chips by shade so you can go to the page close to the sample you have and match it by eyeball. A lot of formulas are cross referenced on the formula software for major paint lines. If you are in doubt, buy a small quan***y and shoot a test panel. overspray

 

Anytime I go to the paint store they cringe at paint names. I need numbers is the response I generally get.

Washington Blue is the color I believe. Is that a standard color for a few years?

 

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PPG made an early Ford color chip book (from model A's-thru V8's. I have one somewhere.) I would take it to the paint supplier and match a color chip in the book to some more modern finish/formula. A lot of paint companies have color books (colormap) with chips by shade so you can go to the page close to the sample you have and match it by eyeball. A lot of formulas are cross referenced on the formula software for major paint lines. If you are in doubt, buy a small quan***y and shoot a test panel. overspray

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Does anyone reproduce these early color chip books?

 

root I think you can just call the PPG color library... they have most of those old color codes updated with new codes. I ordered a quart for my shoebox to see if I liked the original color.

I didnt, so im painting it black. I just gave them the code off of the old 49 color chip book.

You can do a search on google to get this info too, alot of color books are scanned and if you know the name etc, you can get the code.

I dont know if you'll get the right shade of pink for that truck though?? haha-

Tuck

 

I thought old Fords only came in black.

 

I cant find my pre 49 color book but in 49 there was midland maroon-seamist green-arabian green-birch grey-miami cream-fez red-gun metal grey-bayview blue met-colony blue.The book Im looking at now is 1949-1959 if this helps and Ive got all the codes

 

Thanks for the info guys...keep it coming.

 

Does this help?

http://carmodeler.net/catalog-usa/1940FordDeLuxe.htm

 

I think MACS has the paint books?

 

you can buy the books on ebay cheap-

PAINT CHIPS ON EBAY

that guy has everything....
you can take those old numbers and call the PPG # and get a updated mix code for the new paint systems.

 

Thanks...I'll check it out.

 

root
i have some old paint chip books if you need some to look through, i can send some to ya!

 

I bought one on ebay. Hope it's right.

 

Roothawg: www.autocolorlibrary.com Thank's to T-Town Tim da lurker!

 

Thanks for that link. I emailed them for the info.

Looks like Washington Blue is IM-1550.

 

bttt

 

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Does anyone reproduce these early color chip books?

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I got one from Greg's Automotive: http://www.gregsonline.com/ for $19. It's published by PPG and ***led, "Refurbishing Manual for Early Ford V-8 Cars Years 1937-1941 and 1945-1948." Hope this helps.

 

Root- the colormap book is a book of color chips with pages of chips in all shades of all colors. There are several pages of blues from light to dark from redder to greener and so forth. There are both books for metallics and solid colors. I used to work in a Sikkens/Akso Nobel shop and we had the books in our shop and the paint supply store had them too. Dupont came out with them a few years ago and I think PPG has them also. If you get a chip, you can look through one of the books and match it to a modern formula, usually in both base-coat and single stage. Some chips will show a dozen color names for that chip, that's why the paint guys want a code or number. The old PPG Ditzler Antique Ford repaint manual had chips for mostly lacquer. Later formulas were available in other systems. It's been a while since I even looked at mine. I can't find it now. They used to be about 12 bucks, back in the 70's. If you are color blind, have a friend help with selection. About 30% of males are color blind to some degree-to Red and Green. If you are a painter it really ****s when trying to match colors. overspray

 

http://autocolorlibrary.com/acl_files/ford.html

Here is a good source of Ford colors.

 

Do the auto paint stores have the spectrometer gadget the home paint stores do?

I was amazed at how accurately the home paint store matched up a couple of colors for me.

I was able to take in some unfaded samples*, they stuck em in the machine, got a formula and mixed up an exact match.

If . . . big word, I know, but if you could find an unfaded sample and the auto paint stores have the spectrometer device it shouldn't be a problem.

*Samples were a short piece of trim that was replaced with new wood.

I can just see you carrying in a 40 Ford door so they could get the formula off that....

 

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Do the auto paint stores have the spectrometer gadget the home paint stores do?

I can just see you carrying in a 40 Ford door so they could get the formula off that....

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Yes, they do. Any I did exactly that to match a color on my '40. Of course, it was the glove box door and I was matching the dash color

 

Otto, that greeen looks like my '52 Ford truck green, forget the name. A guy named Walter Miller advertises original paint code books in Hemmings.

 

The ****yzer needs a piece at least 2"x3" so color chips are out.

 

The best thing about the spectrometer match is that it matches the colour on the car, fade and all. My Citroën CX got hit last year, and the shop matched the paint so perfectly (metallic blue) that I couldn't tell the difference.
Cosmo