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Let's Talk Cyclecars

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bigcheese327, Dec 4, 2007.


  1. dubs, once installed, it becomes a donk...sheesh...:D;)
     
  2. rear suspension details:

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  3. Man, I NEVER thought I'd be corrected on my EBONICS :D!
     
  4. UKAde
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    Today's jappic report , due to a lack of glue, 4 of 4 is waiting in the wings ,

    Today was spent measuring and marking out on the work bench to get all the parts in the correct relationship , started cutting parts for the dash bulkhead ,

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    Plan for tomorrow is , hope glue will be in stock get 4 of 4 done , finish dash bulkhead , might go into school and cut out trial spring mounts from mdf on the laser cutter ,
     
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    Well I guess we'll have to wait a little bit longer, Ade. What kind of fasteners are you using on the wood frame?
     
  6. live long enough in the Ritz'mon, yoose learns these thangs...
     
  7. banjeaux bob
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    Here are some cyclecars that competed in the Klausrennen Hillclimb between the years 1922 and 1934.
     

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    The main structure, and the metal reenforcement plates are all glued together ,
    Most of the fasteners will be for holding the parts in e correct place while they are being glued ,
    I have a book on home built aircraft and a screwed joint is not acceptable method of joining

    Most of the fasteners will be coach/carriage bolt as they are period looking
     
  9. banjeaux bob
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    Ade,is there space in this vehicle for you?You look tall.I imagine this car may not be all that big.

    Bob
     
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    This is a picture of the designer and driver , he looks like a giant compared with the car

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  12. That Pathe footage is really cool. I take it that it was shot of Brooklands?

    Am I correct that the HP rating is the RAC (Taxable) figure?

    Look forward to seeing the finished product. :cool::cool::cool:
     
  13. chriseakin
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    One of my neighbours has built a kind of cycle car - pedal powered but the original plans had a little two-stroke in the back, so he could add that. However, if he did, he'd have to keep it locked up to keep his kids out of trouble. As it is, they can borrow it for a pedal down the road. Here is a link to the local paper's facebook page with photo of him on the road.
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.ph...08842257.36793.139399399466278&type=1&theater

    The white things on the front are computer speakers hooked up to an Ipod or something similar. He has a battery in the back so he can add lights as well.
     
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  14. banjeaux bob
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    Cool stuff Chris!
     
  15. onelung
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    They're very sophisticated vehicles (as far as "cyclecars" go..), but not wanting to stray into the area of pedantics I'll simply ask, please... what is the third (front wheel drive) car ?
     
  16. SanctaRosa
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    Yay Georges Mochet. Yes I most certainly have heard of Mochet pedal powered cyclecars; - though he named them 'velocars'. The Mochet family were involved in building various kinds of pedal powered vehicles in France in the period before and during WW2. After the war they made a small cyclecar that was very attractive IMHO which was in many ways based on the velocar chassis, but without pedals.
    The velocar body was made of plywood over a wooden frame and was covered in vinyl with alloy strip edging over the seams. Other small French cyclecars of the time, such as Ardex, shared the same construction methods.
     

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    More Mochet, a Velocar from 1936 this time and an Ardex so you can see the similar form of body construction to the later Mochet Velocars.
     

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    Well,Amilcars have always been considered cyclecars.As for the third front drive car...I don't know what it is.
     
  19. UKAde
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    I think the French legal definition of a cyclecar as under 350 kg there are accounts of stripped down amilcars being taken to the authorities to be weighed and registered as a cyclecar before all the other equipment being purchased and fitted
     
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    The RAC horsepower rating would be 1 x 70² / 1613 = 3.0378. I would expect actual bhp to be around 8½. My sources give a rating of 2¾ hp, how derived I do not know.
     
  21. Thanks for the clarification. I'd be interested in knowing how the HP figure was derived if it's not the taxable value.
     
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  24. banjeaux bob
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    Bob,that was very cool.Nobody was in hurry. Did you see these YouTube vids?

    Now,I don't know how to do the thingy with the url.I can,however tell you how to get to the movies.

    Go to YouTube

    search for MotoMan : Builds a Morgan -- Part One -- MotoMan.TV

    MotoMan : Builds a Morgan -- Part Two -- MotoMan.TV
     
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    Great article on thew Cockeral.I do find one glaring fault with it though.Harry Miller built front drive racing cars with integral engine,trans,and drive long before the Borgward.He also licensed the technology to Cord.I wouldn't have any doubts if one were to suggest that perhaps that Harry Miller was influenced by Gockeral's design.

    Here is a picture of the Buick Miller now sleeping in the Mullin Museum.
     

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  28. onelung
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    As we seem for a moment to be talking early front wheel drive ... here's one from the Malartre collection near Lyon. Oh, and should we also mention Cugnot's 1771 fardier à vapeur? ;) Also front wheel driven. Miraculously, it still exists - in the Musée des Arts et Metiers in Paris.
     

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