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Technical lincoln front brakes

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by sfowler, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. sfowler
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    I,M LOOKING FOR INFO ON INSTALLING LINCOLN BRAKES ON MY MODEL A-V8 WITH A 32 FRONT AXLE AND 40 SPINDLES . THE 1939 THRU 1948 SEEM TO BE WHAT EVERY ONE USES . I HAVE FOUND A COMPLETE SET FOR A 1949 INCLUDING DRUMS , SPINDLES , HUBS , AND ALL . I BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL 5 ON 5.5 BOLT CIRCLE . HAS ANYONE SEEN THESE USED BEFORE . I WOULD LIKE TO RUN 1935 WIRE WHEELS. THANK FOR ANY HELP . STEVE
     
  2. 100% Matt
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    Steve you'll need to remove some material on the top of the spindles to fit the Lincoln backing plate. The bolt pattern is indeed 5 on 5.5" . Its a common application for better braking

    However I’m not sure about 49 backing plates as 39-48 are the preferred years
     
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  3. alchemy
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    I bet a 49 Lincoln was an independent front suspension, and the brake's mounting surface was different than the straight axle cars. Might not fit on 40 spindles without a bit of fabrication. Or might not fit at all.
     
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  5. seb fontana
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    Since Jamco lists coil springs for the front of a '49 Lic I would have to say it has independent front suspension; something in my memory bank says it used the Merc frame..Nothing is probably a direct bolt on..
     
  6. 8dearborns
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    39 Lincoln brakes are unique and are very deep bolting on to 32 Ford spindles. I like them because they place the front wheels in their exact position as they are on a stock 32 Ford. 40-41 Lincoln brakes have flatter backing plates like 40 Ford brakes and are interchangeable. They bolt on to 40 Ford type spindles..
    The 46-48 Lincoln brakes are different with different spacing altogether. 49 and later are from a different planet.
     
  7. Jalopy Joker
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    Boling Brothers Early Iron -bolingbrothers.com SAM_9265.JPG
     
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  8. goldmountain
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    I know nothing about Lincoln brakes. However, I do remember magazine articles. In Toddler's Journal #78, regarding the Gray Baskerville car, it says it has 1952 Lincoln brakes in the front as well as a rear axle from the same car. In the picture, it looks like the same brakes as the earlier cars.

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  9. Tuck
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    48 would work but 49 will not- totally different spindle mount and offset.

    There are 3 different styles of 39-48 brakes and they have to do with the depth of the offset of the plate.

    I used 47/8 Lincoln plates on my roadster and made 1/2 spacers for the backing plates. The rear brakes require no spacer and you can fill the brake cable hole and run them in the front they look just like 39 plates.

    39 required no spacer and the inbetween year 40-? had a deeper offset I think... I can’t recall.

    They will all bolt right up to your 40 spindle!
     
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  10. BamaMav
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    1949 was a totally new ch***is design for Lincoln. IFS, open drive rear.
     
  11. 19Fordy
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    If you want to install Lincoln brakes on 40 Ford spindles the stock 49' Lincoln brakes will not work.
    49-51 Merc. brakes are 11 in. I think 49-51 Lincoln are also. You need the Bolling Bros. 12 in. brake set up.
     

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  13. manyolcars
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    Bolling Brothers does not include the self adjusters
     
  14. goldmountain
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    We all agreed that 1949 they went IFS, but who really has first hand I information as to their brakes? Where are those Mexican Road Race guys?

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  15. Tuck
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    King pin inclination, king pin length and diameter would come into play.

    To change the inclination you would need to do that on the axle using a jig-

    You might need to change the bore of the axle or the spindle depending on bore.

    Is there enough height/room for the axle between mounting holes? Maybe spacers? Maybe trim axle a tad?

    Photos would help- have any?
    Measurements would help.
    Anyone know what kingpin inclination is on 49 spindles?
     
  16. goldmountain
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    I re-read the initial question where he said it included the spindles and of course, the spindles won't work but the brakes might. I mentioned that the Rodder's Journal article said that Gray Baskerville's roadster had '52 Lincoln brakes. In the August 1972 Rod & Custom, Gray Baskerville himself says that they are '52 Lincoln. The April 1990 issue says they are '56 Lincoln. In any case, definitely the IFS era. My point is, if the backing plate has a big hole in the middle surrounded by 4 in a square pattern like early Ford, they should work. Scan-190217-0001.jpg
     

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