Linseed oil over patina

No, but it will keep paint from sticking to it...

 

It's all subjective. I'd personally rather have a rusty car than a car with a low quality paint job. There are a LOT of guys out there that THINK they know how to paint a car but do horrible jobs, you see 'em at every cruise in and car show. I agree with hotrod40, unless you get rid of the rust, theres no point painting a car, it's really hard to get all the rust out of the pores of the metal, the whole car would need to be blasted, soaked, etc. in order to have something worth painting. Unless you want to do it right, paint and body is a waste of time and money.

 

Wow. we are a tolerant bunch of opinionated #*%holes, aren`t we?

I really enjoyed my patina shop truck and never thought of it being considered anything else other than just that.
Original untouched old finishes are part of hotrodding now and are accepted as one of many different styles. Looks like an original truck to me.
The majority of the people making negative comments on here are the same keyboard Nazis that attack on a regular basis.
I`ve often asked what caliber their keyboard is...

The guy asked a simple question and although he opened himself to this array of comments I`m sure he`ll never do that again.


Wanna cut my truck up? Have at it. Found it in this condition in Montana.
Of course none of you angry keyboard jockeys helped build or pay for it.

I am so proud of my fellow HAMBers....

 

This should be stickied. Seriously...

 

Guys who are providing YOUR opinion on his truck. Who asked you? This truck belongs to a good friend of mine. This is NOT a rat rod. This is a truck that has faded paint, surface rust. But is a very Complete not chopped up truck which draws tons of interest from lots of people. He simply asked for some advice about the linseed oil he put on it. If you want to give opinion on that then thanks. But if you want to give your opinion on the finish of body panels then wait until he posts asking for advice on what color to paint it.

The owner is a great guy and can take your rude posts. But some guys aren't that thick skinned. Maybe your opinion is then that guy needs to get thick skinned. Well some guys are new to cars and need affirmation and encouragement in OUR hobby. So instead of being a prick and dissing on a guys truck why don't you just try to find a tread where you can provide some advice or help to a guy that might need help with knowing what color to paint his truck or what type of paint to use.

[steppping off my soapbox]

 

Thanks Alex.

 

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Wow, I was asking for a joke about filling in Mona Lisa's cracks and instead we got a joke about buffing the Statue of Liberty LOL!

 

Actually I kind of like ya, not well enough to spoon mind you.


I have little respect for most people I come across, but what will give anyone more respect than anything is speaking your mind, even if I don't agree. May not win my respect but it will get a person closer. As if that mattered in this world.

 

I'd be a little apprehensive if I had to do Michelangelo's David...

 

Apples, and oranges bro. Rusting steel has a shelf life. In the life time of the guys who started all this stuff, they have seen a majority of early cars be lost to neglect, and rust. That means that there is a large percentage of them that will never be seen again. They are GONE. Now, that may be the reason some of these folks get a little angered by people letting things rust, and calling it cool.

As far as the Mona Lisa, the Declaration of Independence, and the Statue of Liberty, do you really think there aren't teams of experts trained in nothing other than doing the absolute best job they can to preserve those objects? There are people who spend their entire lives trying to preserve a single historic object.... look at the steps taken to preserve the Declaration of Independence, special vaults with temperature, and humidity controls. There are just different tools for different mediums, and our medium doesn't allow us to keep the historic look without further damaging the original object.

I personally enjoy a highly weathered looking vehicle, but, taken care of. I like the look of my own truck. At the same time I realize that steps need to be taken to continue its' survival. It's getting bubbles in the fender corners, and hood edge. While I may like the look of the aged paint, and worn high points, I realize that without attention, that thing is slowly going to return to the earth. If there were a way to freeze that effect, and have it not continue, I don't think there would be an issue here. These "old timers" would probably simply say "meh, that car's not for me" and move on. BUT, there's more at stake here. There is no other way to stop rust than to remove it, and recondition the new surface through sealers, paints, etc. PERIOD, END OF STORY. Anything else is just a band-aid. Linseed oil will not stop the rust, and in some not so distant future, that truck is going to be in trouble. Those kinds of band-aids are probably what led to the demise of many of the cars I wrote about earlier. I'm realizing more and more that much of this comes down to preservation first, personal taste second. Keep the car sound, and able to outlive you first, and then make it look like whatever you want. Many of us just need to realize that keeping the cars around should be our common goal, and then we can divide, and go our seperate ways when it comes to appearance.

 

I had a light blue 1965 Ford F250 pickup a few years ago that still had the paint on it, with a handful of exposed primer spots where the paint was worn off. I washed the truck with dishwashing soap, Comet powder clenser and a Scotchbrite pad. Came out great! Afterwards, I used a rag and WD40 on the dried truck. It looked freakin' magnificent! For a week or so, then reapplication was necessary to maintain the look. The truck really looked nice! Cheap and easy.

 

Sorry, rat in the name, rat look to the truck... it's to easy to make that connection.

Yep, those are funny, and sad...

No, rust and patina are two different things. Nice try though.

This comment is so full of shit... and really contrary to what this site is about.

Now I really did laugh at that one...

How about screw those that just don't get it. Why are you here?

He gets it, it's you that does not.

Well said Paul, well said.

But that is the one of the eras we are here to "spread the gospel about". The more you post the more obvious it is that you just don;t get what the HAMB is about.

You DO NOT get it. The rust look is just as much OT as the donks and billet. Yes to each their own, just don't expect it to get love here.

Mmmm. tasty.

A newb that gets it in spades. Bravo sir, bravo.

There is a huge difference in what you are talking about and rust. All those things like the Mona Lisa, and the Declaration are in seriously climate controlled situations to keep them from deteriorating further. Oxidation on copper like the Statue is different as well. So your so called argument is full of holes.

The furniture thing, if you truly have ever dealt with serious antiques, would be handled differently, the truly valuable are preserved, not allowed to continue to deteriorate, and more often than not, refinished. Normal wear that is through the original finish is treated to preserve it and seal it back up. Nice try though.

 

Paint?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

"What's wrong with rusty old cars?"

 

Perhaps vehicles of this disposition should be referred to as Rot Rods?

I don't have a HAMB friendly vehicle as of now, but when I do obtain one, I will do my best to make it look nice.

 

I have a rare 1961 Hamilton wristwatch, one of only 1600 ever made. The seal around the crystal had gone and the dial had oxidised so badly that you couldn't see the markers or the numbers. I had a specialist renovate the dial so that it looks like new. It looks 1000 times more beautiful than it did before, and now I can actually wear it and use it to tell the time.
There's a big difference between a much loved paint job that has worn thin in places with the passage of time and much hand rubbing and a rusty carcass.
Paul

 

Actually the statue did get buffed as I recall and I did get the deal on filling mona lisas cracks. She's a little old for my taste I am afraid.

 

And I thought this was a thing of the past maybe one of these days rAT rOd mAGaZiNEe
will die also jessssssssssssssssss this is so old and dried up that it makes me want to cover myself in oil ..........LMAO

 

Oh come on, it was college and I was DRUNK!!!

 

One man's junk is another's treasure. But we're not talking about junk here, what we're talking about boils down to nothing more than a fashion statement. Purely visual aesthetics. The OP has obviously put a lot of hard work into the truck whether he finished it to everyone's liking or not and he has every right to be proud of his accomplishments.

While my '51 3100 has more paint on it, it's a long way from being finished to the level of the OP's truck. However, that doesn't stop me from being proud of what I've done so far. Nor did it hinder my feelings of pride the day I purchased, unloaded and displayed, what most would call junk, in my driveway for the whole neighborhood to see.



Now, whether the OP's truck adheres to the strict guidelines of what the police call on or off topic for this site is not for me to decide. Personally, I feel that the word "traditional" as it pertains to hotrods is as skewed these days as the word "patina".

 

But was linseed oil your lubricant of choice?

 

There's a bit of difference in your examples. First a piece of old furniture that is kept inside, away from the elements is not going to deteriorate because the paint or varnish has worn off by someones butt sitting on it for years.
While steel that is rusting IS deteriorating and eventually will just return to the earth as the Iron Ore that it stared at - at that will surely destroy it's value.
The Statue of Liberty is made of Copper, the tarnishing or oxidation of which (along with Bronze) is the original definition of the term "Patina". But here is the BIG difference; Patina on Brass or Bronze actually Passivates the material PROTECTING it, not destroying it like rust does to metal. So they are two very different things.

So really your argument isn't valid.

 

Lacquer!!! Keeping it traditional baby!

 

That truck is O/T for this site and doesn't suit my tastes, but that's of no one's care other than mine. The guy is asking an O/T question about an O/T vehicle. I see a LOT of that on this site. Why not just answer his question like so many other O/T topics here?? Why the drama? lol.

 

PERFECT, Rot Rods, a sub culture of Rat Rods, and Crap Rods.

 

Yeah, but I like Vagina.

 

Just an idea, and perhaps too late, but it worked for me. After having my primer darkened as much as possible, I sprayed it on with a cup gun in my driveway, on a hot sunny day. Got kinda tiger stripped that way. So I let her cure and did a little sanding. I soaked a rag with tire black and wiped down the entire car. That tire black soaked into the primer, and it still beads up over 3 years later! Retained the flat finish also. Of course, my excuse is that it's a drag car and bondo adds weight!!

 

Tire black who would have thought.

 

I want my hour back!