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Looking for a Generator/Alternator Shop

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by frankthetank81, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. frankthetank81
    Joined: Mar 4, 2013
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    I have a 59 VW Bug, with a fixed generator stand, so my options for a direct replacement to switch to 12 volt are very limited (Porsche Generator=$$$$). I was looking for some recomendations on where I could get my 6 volt generator rewound to produce some respectable amps when used with a 12 volt regulator.

    Thanks
     
  2. hotroddon
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    This forum is for TRADITIONAL HOT RODS & CUSTOMS. Before it gets nasty and shut down I will first say why not use a generator from a 1967 Bug, first year of 12v, or later - or an alternator kit? Did that on mine, smartest thing i did to the car

    And second maybe you should ask the question here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/index.php
     
  3. Abomination
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    I'll one-up ya.

    I have a generator/power steering pump that run on the same shaft off of a 331 Hemi-equipped Imperial (a '55). I'd like to run it, but I'd like to put out 12 volts, and quite a few amps, and was wondering the same thing.

    I've heard you could have a 6v generator rewound to be a 12v before. I've even see how to gut a flathead generator and make it into an alternator, but I've never had anyone really go into it much, or mention if this is something all alternator/starter shops can do or not.

    So let the guy continue - generators are generators. And besides, I just made this a traditional hot rod thread. :)

    ~Jason
     
  4. 226 flattie
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    Generators can be rewind to 12 alternators. The only problem is the parts are hard to obtain at times and not to many shops do this anymore . most shops are remove and replace these days.I do these conversions for flathead fords but they are costly. More than what some want to pay for them.
     
  5. river1
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    Check with these folks I never been disappointed with their work

    Gen-Star Electric

    6832 N 63rd Ave, Glendale (623) 939-2202

    later jim
     
  6. try A & B electric in nashville 615 259-4454
     
  7. gassersteve
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    Another gen star vote
     
  8. nmbuellist
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    probably my only regret in life I SOLD MY STARTER and ALTERNATOR SHOP in 2000, when I read these threads about generators is when it hits, my dad started the shop, I took over mid 80's, he died 1998 , I sold-----but by then that old man had taught me his generator knowledge, I know we talk hot rods here but tractor charging systems are the same thing---If I had stayed there with the intenet age I could be sitting there calling the shots, building cars and generators--oh well=onward thru the fog
     
  9. 40Standard
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    never had a VW, always liked them, dated a girl that had one, took it to the drive in movie a few times :)
     
  10. Mr48chev
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    http://www.smithae.com/ Call them and ask for Jim Thomas and ask him if they can fix you up. They aren't cheap but do good work and usually have a quick turn around and Jim not only owns it but is into old cars.

    And they do stuff in and out UPS or mail on a regular basis.
     
  11. hotroddon
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    Seriously, on a VW just bolt on a later 12v gen and be done - Sheesh
     
  12. czuch
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    Don's right. Then watch all the bulbs pop. Change the regulator first.
    Chirco.com,,,great guys and his dad is a MAJOR Packard authority.
    kinda keepin it on the rails.
     
  13. hotroddon
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    $52.00 at any O'Reilly auto parts ....

    And yes, he will also have to change his light bulbs (don't forget the dash lights) the regulator, and get a step down for the Windshield Wipers. The starter motor will be fine. And a battery. And the radio if it has one, either a converter or a new radio.
     
  14. Abomination
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    Just for pure curiosity's sake, highball me and lowball me on cost to do something like that.

    ~Jason


     
  15. frankthetank81
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    All pre 59 beetles and older are 36/25HP and have a fixed generator stand. So in short one can not bolt on a later sytle generator and call it a day. I know what i need to change for the conversion, only hard part is the actual power source.

    Everyone else, thanks for the shops and info, that was the kind of information i was looking for when i posted.
     
  16. hotroddon
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    My bad, missed that it was a 59 36HP.

    So the inexpensive way to do it requires some machining. You machine the radius of the stand to fit the larger diameter of the 12v generator. You can do that with a flycutter in a mill. Yuo can also hand gring it to the larger size but it takes a staedy hand and a good eye.
    Next you need a backing tin from a 68-71 Bus and the fan and hub. use the 36HP generator pulley and a 1600 lower pulley with a 900 x 10 belt and you are in business.

    Or you can find someone to wind the 6v generator to 12v :D
     
  17. Bearcat_V8
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    from Dexter, MI

    Well let's see... there is Nelson Armature on Grand River in Redford Township. There are two or three generator/starter shops on Ford Road in Garden City. And, finally there is a generator/starter shop on Grand River in the little town of New Hudson. That's where I would start.
     
  18. frankthetank81
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    Thanks man, I will try them. I called a few other places and they were either to far away or did not know. GC would be awesome.
     

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