Hot Rods Looking for advice on pricing a 32 5W please.

Ya I know what you're all thinking, my first post and I ask what might be an impossible question to answer.

Well as bad as I feel about asking, I really need to educate myself because I've wanted one for quite some time now and just recently I came across one. It was a bare body with what I'd think is typical damage and wear for a 80 year old car. You know lower sheet metal rust, every panel had lots of dents, cracks, and of course a few bullet holes. If it was anything other than what it was I wouldn't even consider doing the amount of work it needs, but it is a 32 5W...so I am. I think the inner window mouldings were there, windshield frame and dash was there but that was about it. No frame or any other sheet metal.

SO what would be a "ballpark" figure to pay for something like this? What should I expect to have to pay for one that was more or less not damaged but still needing the typical rust repair panels?

I was also wondering were a good place would be to find one. Years ago when I was first looking I found all sorts of A's, a few T's and some fat fender ones like a 35 vicky? and some 37 and 38 2drs but I never did find that elusive 32 5W and in fact I sort of gave up on my dream...until now.

I'd be gratefull for any advice.

Thanks
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Saw one needing little work in Red Deer today for $12,500.

 

Like some of us 32 Ford owners say

You NEVER pay too much for 1932 Ford stuff ...
You just bought it too early

The fact is that every piece and part I ever bought ( 1932 Ford stuff ) in the past 30 or so years of being a DEUCE owner is worth more money $$$ now that it was when I bought it. 1932 Ford cars and pieces that I p***ed on 15/20 years ago as too rough are now selling for good money. The good cars and pieces are selling for STUPID money.

Ford only made the 1932 Fords for a little over 9 months. He made 212 thousand 32 Fords ... 78 years ago. Normal use, wrecks, World War II s**** metal drives, rust and the jalopy races of the 40's/50's have GREATLY reduced the number of 1932 Fords still out there. No one has reproduced a steel 32 Ford 5W coupe yet ... so all these factors increase their value.

SO it boils down to

How bad do you want it ?
Can you afford it ?

How come it is not YET in your GARGAGE ?

 

I agree with Deuce Roadster. It all depends on how bad you want it and how much you're willing to pay. It may be worth more to you then someone else hence you'll pay more or vice versa. When I bought my Deuce I felt I paid too much, but I really wanted it and it was a local car that was on the road that I could work on a little at a time and still enjoy driving it. And it wasn't like I had 4 or 5 to choose from if you know what I mean. As far as what the 5W body you are talking about is worth, it's hard to say without pics. But 5W bodies that are missing whole quarter panels, no floors and what most would think are unsaveable are going for 3-5000. Rough but complete bodies that need every patch panel known to man are 10-15000. And really good bodies are probably in the 20-30000 range. Judging by your somewhat vague description of the body I'd think it would be somewhere in the 10-15000 category. But again without pics it's hard to say. Does it have doors, a decklid, firewall, any part of the floor...etc. All of this influences the price. But again there are other factors to such as is it local?

 

Best thing to do is shop around. Look on here, eBay, hmn.I looked at one a year ago for 25k running. It had a SBC 4 speed& channeled. Go to shows. You will develop a feel.for values.

 

That question is asked on here way too much. Like anything in life it is worth what ever you are willing to pay for it. When I talk about my car I never talk about money and never will. What it cost and what I have invested in it are irrelevant to the fact that it's a life long dream that makes me happy every time I see it or drive it, or think about it. My p***ion for my car has nothing to do with money and everything to do with enjoying life. That may seem too "pie in the sky" for a lot of you on here, but "that's my story and I'm sticking to it"!........... Buy'em and drive'em!

 

I don't see any pictures.

 

amen to what jack said. if you want one bad enough you will buy one.

 

Tell me the exact location,i will check it out for you and give you my opinion.

 

Well thanks guys. That's all good advice and some things I never really even considered.

hotrd32 I like your perspective and I often think that way too but I also try to cover my **** and think "if I had to sell this thing next week, could I get my money back?". It can be tough to balance both sides....

Deucedreamer, it has a firewall, doors, deck lid and a good portion of the front floor. The trunk floor is toast though and I think also under what's left of the seat. I'm pretty sure the rockers are done too because the lower doors, quarters and cowl all have rust.

I'm so far out of touch with these cars that I really had no idea what to expect to have to pay for one but now I have a pretty good idea and I'll keep trying to learn more!

 

just saw this one on craigslist $5,500 for the body

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1712881947.html

 

Fibergl*** , Not real henry steel like we are talking.

 

I looked at it too. They were doing some pretty good drugs looking for $12,500.

I would have given them $4000 tops. Tons of work needed and would test your metal skills severely.

 

I agree, it was SOFT, definately a BC bush find. Lower rust and dents are usually easy to repair, but its very hard to work with the thin pitted metal.
I'd rather buy a squashed car than one thats about to evaporate.

 

I think I saw that one too........ chuckle.

 

Ok girls this is another example of why people are grumbling about the cost of an old car project, over priced **** bodies. It seems like the culture has implied, pay anything for it because its rare and will go up in value. Well where have you been for the last two years every inflated item has tanked. Easy money spent foolishly creating an inflated market with no base.

I do agree that you should buy the best you can but that doesnt necessarily mean that just because you dont make big bucks that you should purchase a piece of **** either because that all you can spend. Everyone is complaining about the cost of parts yet you have a group of people that "ooh and aah" and say that I'd pay mucho for that but when push came to shove, their hands wouldnt come near their pockets. Then there is a group that are the exploiters, they raise the price so high that it is ridiculous and claim its the last one on earth hoping to hook a inexperienced buyer for an over priced POS. Other people see this and think their good stuff has to be worth plenty more and the inflation spirals out of control.

This car body sounds like one of those one step out of the s**** pile units that is good for patch panels or donor pieces. If the body is beat to **** , its all rusted up and is shot full of bullet holes, has no moldings dash or mechanical parts, unless this is give away cheap priced, stay away. If you are an excellent sheet metal worker you might make out ok but you will spend more money buying parts or looking for missing items,to have this roach semi repaired as the dollar signs ring up, ching, ching , ching..

My suggestion put the money back in the cookie jar and wait until a better one comes along or follow the for sales in all the car mags and on the internet. There is no reason to spend over $3 grand on a rusty hulk 5w or 3w deuce or not full of built holes unless you need an ego m***age.

How do I know, well that's how I bought my first car, I thought I was saving a buck and bought a rusted up hulk that fit into an 8 ft pickup box, took 2 years to put it together and its still a patch panel car. .02c

 

Well since I'm the guy who's doing drugs and trying to flog an "unbuildable" deuce 5w bush find (it's actually from Manitoba originally), perhaps some pics would help. I think it may just go back into storage, and I'll build it when I get around to it.......

 

Well this old girl is a lot better than your original post description, yes it is a field car but a little dry air saved the day.***uming that this wasnt in a fire and just discarded out side in a semi dry area its a fixer. If you look at the over all picture and base the sum of the parts at realistic pricing then it will give you a good idea as to the value and if you got a deal or the deal got you.

If you break it down the parts as well used but not junk you can come up with a total. moldings +/- $1500-1800 set, doors with mechanicals $250-400 ea., deck lid 250-450, roof turret section $600-800, quarter panels $350-500, seat frame $200, firewall $350, sub rails and floor $350-500, cowl section $250, want value ? so if you added all the pieces up on the high side you get $6150.. on the low $4650... + want value. It doesnt look to bad so its a keeper, good luck with your find.

 

****, I have to disagree with you on the value of Tinmann's 5w. If that showed up at my local swap meet for $6150 I wouldn't be able to get my wallet out fast enough. It's definately closer to a $12K body than $4K.

 

Tinmans body looks better in the pics than it does in real life. Granted it may not be as bad as I initially thought,but no way in hell is it worth 12,500.

He said it was gonna drop in price, actually had 12,500 on a piece of duct tape on the body.

As the day wore on he crossed out the 12,500 but never wrote a more realistic price.

Yes it is buildable and would be a good body for a cool 5 window project. If it came out of Manitoba, you can be sure there are others out there still as well as in other places.

I may find one some day, but in the meantime I refuse to pay like it's gold plated or made of ***anium.

I stick by my original ***esment of $4000, maybe $4500.

 

that's a pretty decent body to work with compared to what a lot of hamber's are dealing with...and the supply of oem bodies is dwindling as we speak. that body and an original frame is a pretty darn good start.

 

with pricing ideas like that youll never get your hands on a 32 fiver

if i had the $$ id be all over it.

 

You need not worry your pretty head, Blue One. It's sold. Your appraisal of $4000 to $4500 wasn't even in the ball park. But you sure sound like you know what you're talking about............pffffft!!!!

 

My pricing ideas may or may not be realistic. They are to me. Good that you sold it. Selling anything is just a matter of finding someone who wants what you have badly enough to pay your price.

If I get a 5 window it will be for one hell of a lot less than what was being asked for this one.

It will likely be the way I'm willing to bet a lot of these bodies are found and purchased for a modest or reasonable price. Sometimes even a bargain.

What I won't do is pay a hugely inflated price. Too many people are asking crazy prices for this stuff.

I may find one myself,in the meantime there are plenty of other more affordable cars to build, (as I am doing now) most of them just as neat as the deuce.

And yes, after almost 40 years in this hobby I know what I'm talking about.

 

Blue One,
I know two guys, both on here, that paid 5k for deuce five winders. One has the quarters whacked off and the bottom 2 feet is gone.
The other was cut up, burned and then looked like it was run over with a CAT or something.

I'm not saying that there not out there cheaper, but if your looking at internet prices I think you'll see prices are higher then you think (hope).

I can guarantee you though, if you do ever find a decent one for that kind of money you better be Johnny on the spot or it'll be gone before you even have a chance to think about it

 

I saw Tinmans 31 Vicky body and his 32 5 window body at the Red Deer swapmeet and there was definitely a lot of interest in them. While I was looking at the 32 I got a lead on a 1932 5 window that had been parked in a barn somewhere between 1956-1958 along with several other cars. I looked at it on Saturday May 1 and took a couple of pictures. These cars are in Alberta. I can't figure out how to post a picture on here but I could possibly send the picture to one of you so you could post it on this site. Thanks, Wayne.

 

no offense dude, but your out of your mind.

Modest or reasonable priced 32 5w? Not gonna happen.

Too many people asking inflated prices? If everyone has a high price, thats called fair market value.

Maybe you'll get lucky and find a nice one at a 'modest" price, but dont hold your breath. Just sayin.....

 

Had a child yet?

Have one. Try to have a son. Then you have some trading material that will get you in the ballpark - cause it's hard to drive one missing an arm and a leg. And most guys don't need the extra left nut.

That car in the pictures above I think if put on eBay would go for more than $4500 - is it worth more? Mr. Spadaro knows his stuff, so I'll defer to him. But I saw one that wasn't a whole lot more - it had a chopped top and gl***, but no floors at all - go for $12,500 not that long ago. I think the sheetmetal itself was better on this car - but it had a coat of flat black paint and had been a NYS car - I didn't go over it with a magnet or anything.

 

Well??? The suspense is killing us -- so, what did you get for it?

 

I bought my 32 for 1,500 bucks about 4 years ago i think? it was missing quarters. I am realistic though and know they go for much much more