There are a lot of 49-63 guyd here and someone prob has a set they are not uing , Patricks has more stuff as well. I know that only certain model 235's fit 55-63 chevys , important if you need another motor to check it out first. I may be getting a deluxe 50 chevy club cpe myself and kinda want to know how to put in a 292/250 six.-kits?Details?
Reeevvv....Reeevvvvvv....Reeeevvvvvvvv BOOOM! Clank Clank CLUNK! "Better find a V6 ta replace that thang!" Ha Ha Ha...if you're determined...you can buy split exhaust manifolds from Speedway and others, or have your stocker split, I believe. My Dad ran a 4-2 split exhaust on his old 51...and decorated I-94 with the internal workings of a few 235s before giving up on those "splash oiled time bombs" as he called 'em! (But he said the SOUND from the 4-2 split was cool beyond words!) Good Luck, Von...I'll save you a few trick V6 parts...just in case, though!
Only the early 235's were splash-oil motors. From 1954 to the last one in 1962 these were pressured oil motors. The main drawback was that they only filtered about 15% of the oil at a time. That is if it even had the external oil filter on it (it can be added easily). You can get most everything for these motors but you're not going to win any races with it. Yeah, there're fun, but how much do you want to drive it? That should be your determining factor. I'm waist deep in these motors right now. If you have a specific question, just ask. I ight even have a complete 'new' motor up for sale soon along with all the spare parts... r
Still got the 235 in my '59 truck. I drive it pretty hard even without the oil filter. I guess I should put one on it. I wouldn't worry about the engine surviving. And you can surprise quite a few people with how quick they go.
I had a '58 Fleestside that I sold about 6 years ago. Took me a while to find a replacement. But here it is. It needs better gears so I'm gonna put a different rearend in it. Top speed stock is all of 55mph.
Bwahahahahahahahaha....I'll sell ya a TE***SEH motor to back it up, Dude! Can't wait to RACE ya...bring it to the DRAGS this Summer!!!
My '54 is a daily driver (when it runs). Right now is not the time to ask me if it's any good. I bought a rebuilt short block from Jim Carter's Truck parts (they are down the street) and in less than 1200 miles, it's eaten two cams and a set of lifters. I pulled the motor Saturday and Carter's will pick it up tonight to take back to the machine shop that built it to see why it's doing what it's doing. I'm researching engine options... r
Von T, The split manifolds from Night Prowlers are done by Mike Yoder of Kansas Kustoms; they are good quality stuff. If you are going to rebuild your 235, you can have the block modified to use a full flow filter, instead of the byp*** dripper filter. If you're going to rebuild, though, you might look around for a 261 truck engine, you can easily take it up to 270-278" with an overbore. Both of these engines will need a good experienced machine shop to align bore them, due to the stepped main bearing sizes. As for the 55 mph top end, you could change out the rear end to a 3.08 to 3.55 or so, maybe with a saginaw 4 speed w/ a 3.11 first gear. If your rear end is a 4.11, you might go with an S-10 5 speed, this would be an easy conversion, and would clear your bench seat. Go look at the tech pages at Inliners.org, or the Stovebolt page (old Chevy truck nuts) for more info on all this. Mike - Tom Langdon has conversion motor mounts to put a 250 or 292 in your early Chevy, there is a link for him on the Inliners homepage. Later, *****6
Make friends with your local '55-57 chevy club. They'll be your best source for cheap (virtually give-away) prices on 235 parts.
The top speed issue is all in the rear end. Mine has 4.56 rear gears. I'll be putting a camaro rear end in with 3.08 or 3.73's and a saginaw 4 speed I have laying around. The engine has plenty of power to pull it, it's just way under geared.
later 235s are good motors and they're hard to kill. I had my 50 Chevy with a 55 235 doing 75+ mph, no problem. There is a wealth of info and parts available (see below). Offy still repops 2x1 and 3x1 intakes for them, and probably a few others. Vintage intakes can be found on ebay all the time... often they are for 216s, but they can be made to fit a 235 with a little porting and you'll have to use a 216 exhaust manifold. Kansas Kustoms split my exhaust. Crestliner on the HAMB does the same work. Fenton headers are also available new, but then you have to plumb teh engine for a water-heated manifold. Check http://www.inliners.org for all your inline needs. They have info on converting the oil filter, converting to a T5, etc as well as quick responses to questions. Parts can be had from NAPA same day or next day, but if you want speed parts there are tons of places. http://www.chevytalk.org/threads/ubbthreads.php http://www.patricksantiquecars.com/ http://www.stoveboltengineco.com/index1.htm http://www.cliffordperformance.com/home.htm
Thanks Gary , I've done the SBC thing several times ,but now I want a six w that -find parts anywhere + later 350 /or r4 trans. appeal,292's are nothing to sneeze at either ,seen plenty stomp sbc's all be it pretty beefed and if the sbc had the same mods, the six would'nt stand a chance.
von my 50 chev has a 58 235 magurk pistons milled head 490 solid cam clifford 2 peace headers and clifford alm. manifold. bored 30 over and weiand blower. the head has been worked on to makes 325hp dyno proven.that will win a race or to.
Divineinline, Can you post a picture of that engine? Barnett is using my old 235 in a bucket and we've been discussing this engine quite a bit. I would love to see what you did. What did you do to the heads? How much compression and boost are you using and how is the low-end torque?..(not that it matters much in his bucket)
antichrysler. my buddy ownes a head shop here in minn. he did the head. From what i know he milled it to bring the compresion up to about 9to1 ported and polished it and said here you go it should work? The engine already had the pistons in it. and i put a weiand 142ci blower on 8lbs of boost. the headers and man. which i custom made a plate for the blower. drilled the crank for the pullys and put it on. And ther was a lot of douters that it would stay togheter. but 3 years later it still runs great! I have to up grade our computers soft ware for pics sorry. Will do soon. ps the low end is CRAZY
there are also reprints of California Bill's and Roger Huntington's manuals on hopping up the inline 6 circa 1953. They are widely available (even through Amazon) and have some great info if you're building a "period-correct" six.
First let me say I would'nt want anything but a 235 in my 49 & 51. They are super reliable & will cruise 65-70 mph all day long. A sure fire way to tell if you have a full presure 235 is to look at the drivers side of the block, about 3 inches above the botton of the block, mid way back, if there is a sheetmetal plate with 3 bolts on the block, you don't have a 235 pressure motor. It's a babbit pounder. This plate is sometimes blocked from view by the exhaust pipe off the manifold so if the engine is still in the car, Look closely. Billy
What everyone else said...and then some. If anyone doubts the reliability and driveability of a 235, just take a poll and find out how many states my old chevy has been spotted in...just turned over 50k since I put it together. If you need parts I've I've got several of these hoarded up...also got one parts truck....wish I'd kept the 70k original '59 swb fleetside I had...still miss that truck. Anybody around Indy ever see or hear of a turquoise and white '58 that was bought late one night in AL? Brian
I ve got a Blue Flame from a 49 GMC 2 & a half ton with split manifold and three carbs in my 50 chevy hardtop. split exhaust is the only way to go. I just used my old 216 manifold!!!
Lots of 235 "bashing". As stated by AntiC, I'll be running his old 1954 235/Saginaw 4 spd. We drove that set up, with a Camaro rear, down the highway at about 85+mph. Lots of after market speed goodies are available, too. The low rider crowd has been cruising them for decades now. I had one in my 54 Chevy p.u...ran like a top and the Fentons sounded cooler than most sbc's. Build it. Drive it. Dig it.
I bought one of those manifolds from crestliner on here. Stock manifold, split 4-2 and it does sound killer!!! Rat....
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