Im thinking about rebuilding my 200 cubic inch inline 6 next winter. Were can i get a rebuild for it, and does anybody sell oversized pistons for the motor? Thanks Nate
Yes. pistons are available in most oversizes. Check ebay, I think there was a new set of .030 overs on there earlier this week.
PAW sells stuff for those engines I believe... ...so does Clifford Research, and Racer Walsh might have a FEW parts for ya. Your common stuff should also be available over-the-counter at any GOOD parts joint, as mentioned previously. Stuff like gaskets, bearings, oil pump, timing set, etc are all things you can buy locally. Not much to it after you have the parts. A buddy of mine rebuilt a 250 six for his Maverick back in high school...his first engine rebuild and it ran great...the guy who bought the car was still driving it last time I saw him, maybe three years ago!
Don't bother with eBay for the 200 engine. As everyone has said -- everything is available from local parts stores. Try to find a good store and you're in like Flynn. Ford made the 200 well into the 1980s so there's plenty of parts available. Spend your hard-earned money on this manual: Falcon Performance Handbook
I bet a rebuild, parts and machine shop bill, run you more than a "stock" small block Ford or Chevy V8 rebuild costs... When ya get done let us know what it costs will ya? so others can use it as a determining factor whether it's time to go for a V8 or not when their 6 gets tired. (Hope I'm wrong actually, I like inliners!)
You are right about that DR.J - I think it ends up about the same 289 vs 200 in the end. but you also have to upgrade to all of the the steering parts and brakes off of a v-8 to do the swap right - the six cars have lighter duty stuff. I upgraded to all the v-8 steering, spindles, brakes (well-granadabrakes) but STILL kept the 200 becuse i just like working on and looking at the inline 6- a good change of pace after 5 v-8's and helps confuse all the guys that think a falcon is a muscle car. I confirm everything else in this post- buy that book and get your parts at a good local shop. The great thing about these motors is that they made them from 1964 to about 1985 so all the brackets, manifolds, etc are as cheap as they get.
That's the engine that had the intake manifold integral with the head on most of them isn't it? Which years and models didn't? Australian versions didn't, right?
You are correct, doc. Aussie "crossflow" heads are the hot ticket, but they're not exactly easy to come by. All US heads had an integral intake manifold. Ed
Kool, thanks guys! I plan on doing the rebuild this winter and hopping it up a little. Are there any suggestions to what i should do with the motor? I havent had much experience with these. I will buy that book that will teach me alot and tell me everything i need to know. Thanks again for your help. Nate
I just did mine- by the book- and it worked out well. drives way better, sounds really good. here are the spec's 1965 200 inline 6 short block re-built Stock pistons- 7cc dish Crane 264 cam Double roller timing chain C5 200 head Exhaust port divider welded in Head milled .060 New head gasket .025 thicker than stock- so finished height is -.035. Compression ratio should be in the 8.7 to 9.0 range. Three angle valve job and hardened seats Back cut intake valves 30 degrees 1.76" dia. stainless intake valves 1.468 dia. stainless exhaust valves Hardened valve seats Ported intake and exhaust runners Ported chambers and unshrouded valves Adjustable rocker assembly from a 144 motor- oil passages enlarged Offenhauser tri-carb manifold progressive linkage 3x1 Weber 34ich carburetors Holley electric fuel pump and pressure regulator Clifford 6x2 header to 1-3/4 short pipes and 12 glasspack mufflers Mallory Unilite Electronic Distributer mechanical advance MSD 6A ignition control 3.25 8in. ford rear end 1965 C-4 cruise-o-matic transmission with Transgo shift kit
Contact Clifford Research. Seriously...they are inline six EXPERTS and can sell you anything you need to hop that little six banger up! I talked to them years ago, and they mailed me a tech sheet listing EVERYTHING, right down to torque specs, clearances, recommended cam specs, ignition timing suggestions and carburetion options for my motor free of charge along with their latest (at the time) catalog! Performance parts are limited for the little Ford sixes, but they sell cams and stuff...along with kits to modify your integral "manifold" to accept multiple carbs if you want to go that far!
[ QUOTE ] Offenhauser tri-carb manifold progressive linkage [/ QUOTE ] PTL- ??? What modifications did you need to make? Was this intake originally designed for the 144-170-200 six? Thanks, Ed
Hey, kustomizer, You might want to hang out some on www.fordsix.com and see what some of those guys are doing with their 200" sixes. Seriously, I'm not saying "go hang out someplace else!"; there's just a lot of good info on these engines over there. Buy the Ford 6 Perf. book that was recommended; more good info. Cliffords used to be the only source for Ford 6 info, but since Jack Clifford passed away, there have been some issues with the new management. That was really the start of the independent Fordsix.com website. Go look at the Ford 6 shops found on the home page - the range of parts that are now available might interest you. As to rebuild cost - I just bought a 5,000 mile 200" rebuild off of eBay that the guy has around $2,000.00 from 3 years ago. I paid $600.00 for it, and will be upgrading it with an Aussie head and some other stuff. I figured that buying this engine would put me that much further ahead on my own rebuild plans. Why'd he sell; it looks like he's done a V8 conversion. I guess that some guys just get bent when straight six isn't enough excitement for them, anymore.... Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. BTW, I promise, I'll get you some shipping costs on those headers - Later, Kinky6.
If your up for it, you can cut the intake off the head, mill and drill the surface, and build your own manifold. I ran a 4 bbl on mine. Little motor ran hard!
PTLowered, that sounds like a good motor that will run and run. I'm gettin my short block in a couple weeks, have to take my cylinder head in as soon as the old motor's pulled. Why did you do the HD timing chain? Are the standard a ones weak point?
Edmuder- the offy manifold with progressive linkage is off-the-shelf stuff. it is bitchen and hasn't changed since the sixties. you drill two more holes in the intake log and the thing clamps on and seals with o-rings. Disastron- it was a might-as-well thing. I am very weak when it comes to those temptations.
PTL, not to be nosey, but how much money do you think you have into your motor? So i can figure a price range. Thanks Nate
pardon me for SPAM -Kustomizer- but I will sell you a motor cheper than the parts.it is a straight six from an 8o's granada-200 cubes I believe.it was a carbureted engine so its not too new/not crapped up with smog shit. it has LOWW miles/is complete except for carb and distributor. I will take 150 dollars for it. if you can use it-[you pay shipping ]and DON'T pay for the motor TILL you are happy with it!.Pm me if you are......
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Offenhauser tri-carb manifold progressive linkage [/ QUOTE ] PTL- ??? What modifications did you need to make? Was this intake originally designed for the 144-170-200 six? [/ QUOTE ] Ed, I have this intake. I actually had an original, but it was chewed up and missing all the hardware and linkage, so I sold it to pay for a brand new one. These are still cast by Offenhauser from the original molds, and includes everything, including machining instructions. I hope to start working on a head this winter.
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