Louisville NSRA 2010?

ratrodder34 · Mar 1, 2010

41woodie said: ↑

Over the weekend I received a renewal notice from NSRA, I didn't remember ever receiving a reminder before but I don't remember much anymore. I contacted a friend and he doesn't remember ever receiving one either (he doesn't remember much either). Maybe the message is getting through and they are feeling a membership squeeze.
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I also got the reminder and it was a first for me......no bucks $$$ from me anymore.

tradrod · Mar 1, 2010

(To EMS and the former car dealer):
I think you guys are missing the "big" picture in your rant. Your right that when wanting to put forth a "vision" there is always going to be resistance or cynicism, because most people don't have that ability to "visualize" the final outcome. But consider this:the NSRA for years resisted expansion, even when it could have went up to pre-64 cutoff. Would there have been complaining? Oh yeah!
I think the point with most is the extreme by which the NSRA moved. They didn't want to be like "Goodguys" because then, to them, that would be admitting that Meaders kicked there butt for so many years. (Could it be because he started a "nats" of his own in a longtime NSRA "nats" town? within 2-3 weeks of there own event? Oh yeah,as a competitor, I'm sure it more than got under there skin (as well as into there wallet).
When considering why a business is slowing down, you have to be reflective in assessing why? Because you are right, in capitalism, profit is the goal.(I am self employed, so I know especially now, you have to be flexible). And, I think that the NSRA used the wrong motivation in it's DRASTIC change. They did not think about it's customer, (well that is not totally true as EMS is a customer, because you guys purchase space, but not the customer it should have in mind).
The HAMB is attractive to HAMBERS because Ryan's a hotrodder, he live's it, it's in his blood. That quality make the HAMB a place where people want to be, he writes about it daily. He doesn't need to convince us what a hot rod is, or change it's definition (that's political correctness) to get more members. He's just Ryan, a hot rod guy with a really well run message board . And whether he is in the office or at home, I don't get the sense they are far from his thoughts.
People will be attracted to a good product, and will pay the extra dollars to buy it. But they will also buy a poor product if it is cheap enough, that's why we buy from China, even though it is becoming clearer everyday that those guys are scumbags. They won't,however, pay extra for both, and if there were over 12,000 cars there last year, then you'd better call Bernie Madoff for investment advice. I know, I live here, NOBODY knows the 'Ville better. I saw the joint before the "expansion" and after, I go to University of Louisville basketball games at "The Hall" where there are 20,000 plus, that parking lot only holds about 7000 cars, and yes,I know that a lot of people parked in the grass last year too.And dude, I also grew up less than ten minutes away from the fairgrounds, (Yeah I know that everybody else calls it the "Kentucky Fair and Exposition Center", but it will always be "The Fairgrounds" to us "locals").
I understand about the "buy" in to the hobby, as I am 38 and started my first car when I was 25, drove it in when I was 28, (AND I now have 4 children). But isn't that what led to the "ratrod" craze? And didn't that inject TONS of life into an "old mans" hobby? Those kids (actually people my age )built some awesome cars, with tons of character. I don't think they were inspired by a 78 Camaro (probably scavenged the 350/350 from it though!) let alone a Chevette.
A lot of "Street Rod" clubs over the years have volunteered at the event, and if your business' had that much support, I'm sure you would agree it would be MUCH easier to make money. So did the NSRA consider those guys as well as the vendors? .
People drive from all over the country to attend shows such as the "Lonestar Roundup" (Man, I REALLY hope to go sometime! Those organizer's get IT!) or even our local best kept secret: "Beatersville". And the grandaddy of them all, The NSRA, forgot what "it" is, and I hope it can survive, but if not? I have a lot of other choices to spend my "capitalist" dollar.

Tradrod
(Steve)
(P.S. EMS,I sincerely,hope the reprucussions (sp?)of your first post don't have to much of a negative effect on your company)

good captian · Mar 2, 2010

Its funny how some people who drive pre-48 cars seem to think they are a little closer to god than others.I drive a 50 ford coupe and cant enter some runs here that I could in a cookie cutter roadster built with not one part older than 3 years, pre 48 my arse. My rant over sorry........

carlos · Mar 2, 2010

Good Captian " You nailed it"

Trucked Up · Mar 2, 2010

good captian said: ↑

Its funny how some people who drive pre-48 cars seem to think they are a little closer to god than others.I drive a 50 ford coupe and cant enter some runs here that I could in a cookie cutter roadster built with not one part older than 3 years, pre 48 my arse. My rant over sorry........[/QUOTe

There are some that may think that way, I for one don't feel or think that way.

As I stated earlier most of my vehicles and events are GG's and others that welcome up to '72. I enjoy those vehicles and those events profoundly.

I brought up the '32 store bought issue many years ago as well in earlier posts, as in this latest decision the NSRA turned a deaf ear to me. Though I still continued to attend I just wanted my opinion as a member to be herd. Its just that same type of interaction with the membership that may ultimatly be the down fall of the NSRA.

Just a mere fact that on occasion I enjoy limiting my viewing to pre-49.

Just as I would have no problem attending a post-49 only show.

I do understand that some are more passionate about this decision. The answer is if you don't like the deal just go somewhere else in early August, If you approve then enjoy your weekend at the fairgrounds. The NSRA made their mind up sometime ago not to let the memberships opinion be recognized, and I feel they are still ignoring the outcry hoping it will subside.

In the end the sucess of the NSRA's decision will depend on how we the consumer decide.
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35touring · Mar 2, 2010

good captian said: ↑

Its funny how some people who drive pre-48 cars seem to think they are a little closer to god than others.I drive a 50 ford coupe and cant enter some runs here that I could in a cookie cutter roadster built with not one part older than 3 years, pre 48 my arse. My rant over sorry........
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You know, it's very difficult to explain or to draw a picture for some to completley understand. Especially those who have never attended or participated.
Every car attending these events, (Pre 49) owners, were membership paid, card carrying members of an organization created for owners of Pre 49 vehicles.
We had our own events such as the Nationals. IT was decided, without even a membership poll/questionaire or vote to open the membership and events to owners of cars all the way through the production year of 1981 (next year 1982, 1983 next & so on).
The Street Rod Nationals had over 11, 000 participants cars (pre 1949) this past year.

This issue has nothing to do with anyone feeling better than anyone else or, any car being better than another. We are all car enthusiasts and that is why there are many clubs or groups that are DEDICATED to one brand or another be it Tri 5, Ford, Chrysler, Buick, MG or whatever.
this help you picture it a little better?

hotrodA · Mar 2, 2010

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The REAL bad thing about the 1972 cut off for the Shades of the Past event in Pigeon Forge TN ... in my opinion is NOT that the Shades gets less money ... NO sir ... it is the fact that all the sheer number of later model stuff clogs up the highway. Other late models hogs up the motel parking for days NEVER leaving the parking lot for the show and creates a crowed MESS in town @ the restaurants and eating places for those of us who have supported the Shades for years.

It will be the same for the NSRA Nationals ...

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My sentiments exactly! That's why I quit going there years ago. Just two much hassle getting around, and I've been going there since it was the old Gatlinburg run (70's) and Pigeon Forge was a three motel town.

I go to Louisvile (or did) to look at PRE-48 cars, and I don't attempt to look at ALL of them, just the years and styles that I like. I have a 56 Chevy pickup, but that belongs in another venue.

And if I have to wade through a bunch of bling and associated hardware to talk to a vendor, then I will spend my money with another vendor. While the vendors look at it from a business standpoint and a place to reach more potential customers with the year change, they're not the membership, and the membership is against the year change!

Vern and Gilbert need to grab their ears and yank real hard and pull their heads out into the sunlight.

Flipper · Mar 2, 2010

good captian said: ↑

Its funny how some people who drive pre-48 cars seem to think they are a little closer to god than others.I drive a 50 ford coupe and cant enter some runs here that I could in a cookie cutter roadster built with not one part older than 3 years, pre 48 my arse. My rant over sorry........
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No, it's more like going to a strip club. If you want to see neked women, you go to the one with women.

A strip club with neked dudes is the wrong one for me. Some may like that, but I choose not to go there.

chopcars · Mar 2, 2010

im going for the first time,i love all custom cars and i bet i lot of people who say they wont go will be there. hope to see you all there

ratrodder34 · Mar 2, 2010

Alot of Stereotypes on here about this.........My bad thats what you will hear this year in LVL with all the boom boxes going off!!!!
Will keep my money for 2 weeks after that in Evansville....happy hopping.

VonWegener · Mar 2, 2010

Flipper said: ↑

No, it's more like going to a strip club. If you want to see neked women, you go to the one with women.

A strip club with neked dudes is the wrong one for me. Some may like that, but I choose not to go there.
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I am sorry but I cannot help myself. In so many words what you are saying is that post 48 cars are gay. All of them or just tri-five chevys?

henry29 · Mar 2, 2010

Looks like the Frog Follies will be packed this year, I might have to fight for my shade tree.

thirty7slammed · Mar 2, 2010

henry29 said: ↑

Looks like the Frog Follies will be packed this year, I might have to fight for my shade tree.
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Im not real happy with sliding 30 yr. membership by NSRA, probably check it out just cause it's so close, maybe some day Vern jr. and the rest of the NSRA wheels will get it. And yea heney29, I'll definately be at Evansville fighting for a shade tree.

Roger 37 · Mar 2, 2010

Not crazy about it but I think economics forced them to do something.. most show counts were down over the past few years.... For what it's worth I went to the South East Nats and the blend was good...most newbies were 50s customs. only a few cameros and tangs.... so I'm going to give them a chance.... and now I can drive my wife's 50 for a change....

38 Ford Guy · Mar 2, 2010

Not going I see no advantage in driving that far when I can go to a Goodguys event less than 400 miles from home without and K-Cars there. I let my membership expire too no longer an advantage to be a member.

auto shop · Mar 2, 2010

I will take my toys and play somewhere else!

Dr. Fishstein · Mar 3, 2010

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I own a 64 Plymouth and don't want it to be mixed in with the pre-49 crowd, it is not the same. I think that all cars have a time that they fit into, and shows should cater to those years. I go to the mopar nats to see my favorite muscle cars, just like I go to the frog follies or the NSRA to see certain types of cars. Is not the reason we all got into this hobby was because we were influenced by some era of car and it's style, the build and or the look. I don't think that one car year is any more or less better than the next it is all about individual choice. We drive and build what we want because we identify with that in some way. I personally don't think there was anything interesting built after 1968, that is my opinion and opinions are like buttholes some stink worse than others.

48 Poncho · Mar 3, 2010

wtr said: ↑

We will be taking our 55 chevy. I dont really understand why everyone is crying about the change. There will be more nice cars to look at and if you do come up on a car that you dont like keep WALKING just because it is there doesnt mean that you must look at it and frankly there is some pre 48 cars that are pretty crappy, but you all arent crying about them.
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Maybe we should have a "Deuce Gathering" at the next Tri-5 Chevy National Meet or how about a Merc-Deuce reunion at a Super Chevy?
I'm sure none in either group would "cry".

48 Poncho

pasadenahotrod · Mar 3, 2010

There are always those who just can't see the situation or understand the dis-similarity in early and later cars.

willysguy · Mar 3, 2010

pasadenahotrod said: ↑

There are always those who just can't see the situation or understand the dis-similarity in early and later cars.
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Very well said! That is the exact reason I went away from tri-fives and muscle cars in the early 80's and started building pre war cars. The NSRA was the King of The Hill then.

vintagehotrods · Mar 3, 2010

MercDeuceMan said: ↑

Sorry,
There is nothing in California that makes me feel the need to drive a roadster from Indiana to California and back. Too easy to get on an airplane.
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I can't believe getting packed onto an airplane (with screaming babies) and flying (enjoy the strip search?) these days would be more fun than driving to LARS in my Deuce Roadster! Four times so far and I can't wait to do it again. It's the drive that's fun! So much fun in fact, I add a few thousand miles and make it a 5000+ mile round trip! And waiting in California is the best show on earth where you are personally welcomed by LA Roadsters Club members, and it doesn't cost you a dime! Easy? No, FUN, HELL YES!

I left the NSRA years ago because I saw how Vern treated the volunteers that put the money in his pocket. They were an arrogant bunch then and its just a lot more obvious to everyone else now. Their arrogance is what has got them to what they have become now.

Trucked Up · Mar 3, 2010

Simply put..............They forgot who brought them to the dance.

Deuce Roadster · Mar 3, 2010

vintagehotrods said: ↑

I can't believe getting packed onto an airplane (with screaming babies) and flying (enjoy the strip search?) these days would be more fun than driving to LARS in my Deuce Roadster! Four times so far and I can't wait to do it again.The best show on earth where you are personally welcomed by LA Roadsters Club members, and it doesn't cost you a dime! Easy? No, FUN, HELL YES!

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Jerry,
I totally agree ...
For a roadster guy ( or gal ) ... that has to be one of the the BEST roadster days. It is difficult to explain to some one who had never done it or been there.

I have 4 of the LA Roadster pewter event steins ( here in South Carolina ) and plan on adding a few more before I do the " dirt nap thing "

Jerry, hope to see you in LA this June @ the LA Roadster show !
Deuce Daddy Don is supposed to be there also.

Petejoe · Mar 4, 2010

In the News
As we get closer to our inaugural show, take a look at what others have to say about Vintage Street Rodders of America.

2/7/10 | February Newsletter | Vintage Street Rodders of America

We are happy to announce that pre-registration has begun for VSRA (Vintage Street Rodders of America). As we are a week late
we thank you all for your patience and understanding.
<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O></O>As a special limited time offer, we are offering 2 year memberships for $50 which includes a VSRA T-shirt. If you are among the
first 500 members to pre-register, you will be recognized as a "charter member" which will be indicated on your T-shirt and
membership card. <O></O>
At VSRA you will be able to join even if you do not own a pre-1950 street rod as long as you have an interest in pre-1950 street
rodding. With this membership, you will get free admission for you and one companion to all of our events, cruises, and rod runs.
You will also receive our newsletters detailing all of our upcoming events, shows, and cruises. Please understand that ONLY pre-
1950 cars and trucks will be registered at all of our events, cruises, and rod runs with a registration fee. We want to give everyone
the opportunity to enjoy the sport and eventually participate with a street rod of their own!<O></O>
UPDATE:
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· VSRA website - We are putting the final touches on our "official" website www.vsra-usa.com which should be ready to go
in the coming weeks.
<O></O>

· Vintage Street Rodders of America will be attending the Carl Caspers Car Show in <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Louisville</ST1:CITY> <ST1:STATE w:st="on">KY</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE>, Feb 19-21, 2010.
www.carlcasper.com We will have a vendor booth in the north wing so if you plan on attending the show, please drop by
so we can meet you. VSRA memberships will be available at the booth along with sample merchandise.
<O></O>

· Congratulations to Jim Caswell of <ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Rogersville</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE w:st="on">TN</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> for winning the VSRA logo contest. Jim will receive a lifetime
membership into Vintage Street Rodders of America.
<O></O>

· VSRA is proud to recognize Frank Farroni of <ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Willoughby</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE w:st="on">OH</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> as our first Lifetime Member. Frank owns several vintage
street rods and has been a gearhead for many years. He is very well known throughout the street rodding community as
a “True Street Rodder”. Welcome Frank!
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· We would like to thank www.BigAlsList.com for their support. Big Al has a wonderful resource for street rodders. If you
are looking for an event, show, cruise in, or rod run to attend, www.BigAlsList.com is the place to go. Just enter your zip
code and how far you are willing to travel and a list of events pop up for you to choose from. Thanks Big Al!
<O></O>

· Thank you John Shapiro, editor and publisher of Cruisin’ Times magazine, for your guidance and support. John has a
great magazine and website covering cruise ins and rod runs in the Northern Ohio / <ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:STATE w:st="on">West Virginia</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> area. Visit
www.cruisintimes.org for more information. Thanks John!
<O></O>

· Downs Industries has agreed to become the official body manufacturer of our organization. www.downsindustries.com
<O></O>

· Our inaugural show – Thunder Road Rod Run – will be held September 17-18 in <ST1LACE w:st="on">East Tennessee</ST1LACE>. For anyone who’s
seen the movie “<ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on">Thunder Road</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET>” knows that the proverbial <ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on">Thunder Road</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> runs right through the heart of <ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">East</ST1:CITY> <ST1:STATE w:st="on">TN
</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE>so what better way to honor that heritage than with a bunch of pre1950 street rods thundering through the country side. As
we have more details we will be send them out in our newsletters.
<O></O>

· Beyond 2010, we are looking into the possibility of having a spring 2011 show in the <ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Cleveland</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE w:st="on">OH</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> area. Other areas
that we are considering are <ST1:CITY w:st="on">Northern</ST1:CITY> <ST1:STATE w:st="on">FL</ST1:STATE>, <ST1:CITY w:st="on">St Louis</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE w:st="on">MO</ST1:STATE>, <ST1:CITY w:st="on">Northern</ST1:CITY> <ST1:STATE w:st="on">VA</ST1:STATE>, and <ST1LACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Memphis</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE w:st="on">TN.</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> If there are any clubs in these
respective areas that are interested in helping organize and/or hosting shows in these areas, please contact Jim at
423-571-6430 or email at streetrod34coupe@yahoo.com
<O></O>

· If anyone is interested in forming a cruise to our show in Sept, let us know so we can help coordinate it on our website.<O></O>

12/5/09 | Inaugural Event Location Selected | Vintage Street Rodders of America

Currently plans are being made for our inaugural event to be held Mid-Summer 2010 in East Tennessee. After several very good
location suggestions, East TN was selected because of its central location to our potential show participants and members,
temperate climate, and easy access to 2 major Interstates (I-81 and I-26). All details will be released February 1, 2010.

As we grow, future show locations for consideration are as follows: Northern VA, Kentucky, Illinois, and Ohio.

Topper · Mar 4, 2010

I have been going to the Nationals since the mid 70's. I really enjoy seeing old friends and the vendors. With the power parking and billet everything I will choose to attent the Frog Follies instead. I will also say that my company exhibited for years and advertised in Street Scene. Both will come to an end. As the NSRA says everything changes and I do as well.

Weasel · Mar 4, 2010

Petejoe I have one small problem with the VSRA - the name. Take the Street out and substitute the word HOT and maybe you're onto something.

As far as the NSRA is concerned I quit as a member years ago due to their 'my way or the highway' attitude, their appalling lack of interest in addressing safety issues, their mind boggling arrogance and the serial monotony of their shows. The old adage 'what goes round comes round' has never been truer and now they are begging - how low can they go?

vintagehotrods · Mar 4, 2010

Randy, as usual, we think alike! If any of this was easy, we sure wouldn't be building our own cars and driving them all over the country without windows or air conditioning! And where else but the LARS would they give you those classy pewter mugs? I sure hope everything works out and I can make it to dinner with you and Don out there this year. Did you get the Deuce Gazettes I sent you? I liked that one great pic of the ALL DEUCES RUN so well I put it on the last issues cover!

Deuce Roadster said: ↑

Jerry,
I totally agree ...
For a roadster guy ( or gal ) ... that has to be one of the the BEST roadster days. It is difficult to explain to some one who had never done it or been there.

I have 4 of the LA Roadster pewter event steins ( here in South Carolina ) and plan on adding a few more before I do the " dirt nap thing "

Jerry, hope to see you in LA this June @ the LA Roadster show !
Deuce Daddy Don is supposed to be there also.
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Al Consoli · Mar 5, 2010

http://www.pre50streetrodders.com/

http://www.pre50streetrodders.com/uploads/VSRA_membership_application_1.pdf

http://www.theasra.com/

HotRodBen1987 · Mar 6, 2010

Topper said: ↑

I have been going to the Nationals since the mid 70's. I really enjoy seeing old friends and the vendors. With the power parking and billet everything I will choose to attent the Frog Follies instead. I will also say that my company exhibited for years and advertised in Street Scene. Both will come to an end. As the NSRA says everything changes and I do as well.
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I havent been goin since the seventies but I totally agree with you on the catching up with friends thing. There are people at the NSRA shows that I only get to see once or twice a year and I'll definitely miss that.

ratrodder34 · Mar 7, 2010

HotRodBen1987 said: ↑

I havent been goin since the seventies but I totally agree with you on the catching up with friends thing. There are people at the NSRA shows that I only get to see once or twice a year and I'll definitely miss that.
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Come to the Frog Follies and I will be your friend no I'm not gay

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