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Technical Lowering Coils

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Gambler 1962, Mar 21, 2024.

  1. Gambler 1962
    Joined: Apr 2, 2022
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    Gambler 1962
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    Does anyone sell drop coil springs for 60-61 Ford Falcon? I know I can cut the coils, but looking for someone that actually makes them. Want to do a 2 inch drop.
     
  2. Eaton Detroit Spring can fix you up. Product Lookup by vehicle (eatondetroitspring.com) You'll have to request the drop and it's more $$$, but they sell a quality product. Mustang springs will also fit but they're too stiff, the lowering springs are even worse. Stay from the cheapies too; my personal experience is they sag out in about a year. Springs on these are no fun to install, even less so to change out more than once.
     
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  3. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    jnaki

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    @Gambler 1962

    Hello,

    I am not sure how you decided on a 2 inch drop for your front end. That seems like it is a common choice and we did hear other teens say the same thing a long time ago. So, yes, we lowered the coils 2 inches in front and it was cool looking, but hard to get out of our simple driveway onto the street without scraping something.

    We actually used clamps to squeeze the coils approximately 2 inches in front. We were told that with the clamps, we could get a good idea of what it would look like. The drive was simple, but as soon as we got to a dip in the road, the clamps came off and the sedan was an odd angle car. But, at least we were able to see what and how much we could lower the sedan.
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    My brother’s 51 Oldsmobile 2 door sedan was originally yellow and with the 2 inch drop, the profile on the level part of the front yard driveway was very cool. Very angular with the rear stock. But, be forewarned. It sounds nice, but, no so much when trying to drive down the street and then coming to an intersection with channels coming across the direction you are heading.

    We cut the coils and it was now low. So, low that the driveway took forever to back up without scraping something. The drive down the street was ok. It felt a little stiff and not so forgiving. When we came to a cross street, the two water channels were an obstacle that had consequences. A normal slow speed straight ahead scraped. An angular direction was necessary to complete the around the block trial run.

    Now, coming back up the driveway was another difficulty. The original clamps helped and my brother decided that cut coils 2 inches was fine for him. He was the driver/owner and told himself that care could be taken at every deep cross street intersection. So, it was done and now the yellow Oldsmobile was sitting on a lowered rake permanently.

    Jnaki

    It did look cool and the first time he came home and told me of his trial and error entry into the very steep driveway of the local Bixby Knolls Drive-In Parking Lot was a cuckoo event. At the first try, the bumper scraped. So, an angular method worked somewhat to at least get into the sidewalk area. But, as he kept going, something scraped again. Upon leaving, the exit was worst and he told me it was awful. No amount of slow speed was NOT going to keep something from not scraping.

    What did it? Well, it could have been 4 teenage boys inside making the whole car lower than what it was in our driveway. He lived with it for a week or so. But, he also had the neighborhood muffler guy put on a set of side lakes pipes under the door. Now, that was low and lower. The pipes were hooked up to the down tube from the stock header connection.

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    Note:
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    The final year of driving attitude stance was 2 in the back and 1 in the front. He also sold the side lakes pipes and had the muffler guy do the cutting and that helped with the complete lowering stance. He had the Oldsmobile painted a Lime Green and then sold it to our friend as is, in the fall of 1957.


    Then, it was the 1958 Impala drag racing years until 1965, when I sold the Impala to go away to college.

     
  4. In_The_Pink
    Joined: Jan 9, 2010
    Posts: 958

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    Coil Spring Specialties will make exactly what you need, and they aren't crazy expensive in my experience: www.coilsprings.com
     
  5. TCTND
    Joined: Dec 27, 2019
    Posts: 710

    TCTND
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    If you do the "Shelby drop", which is easy, it will lower the front about 1" and improve handling.
     
  6. Hellfish
    Joined: Jun 19, 2002
    Posts: 6,761

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    Yes. I've used them before. Just tell them the year, make, model, engine and trans you're using. They have all the specs for everything (even European cars) and will do all the calculations. New springs in 2-4 weeks.
     
  7. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 24,401

    gimpyshotrods
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    I just cut them.

    Cut 1/2 turn per spring, at a time, and check.

    Also, relocate your upper control arms.

    I have Shelby GT-350 springs in my Falcon, cut down.
     
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  8. Bird man
    Joined: Dec 28, 2009
    Posts: 1,008

    Bird man
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    from Milwaukee

    If there are off-the-shelf Mustang 6 banger coils, I might start there? Maybe cut one coil from your current springs & see what ya think. Nothing to loose.
     
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  9. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    from ct

    Will the shelby drop work on a 72 OT comet? What does the drop pattern end up being?
     
  10. TCTND
    Joined: Dec 27, 2019
    Posts: 710

    TCTND
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    I don't know anything about a '72 comet except it looks to be based on a Pinto. The Shelby drop is meant for Falcon based cars ie early Falcon, Mustang, & Comet. It simply relocates the inner trunnion for the upper A arm 1" lower. This improves the camber curve and lowers the car. I suspect that the '72 Comet is completely different and this would not apply but I could be wrong.
     
  11. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
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    Yes. The suspension is an extension of the same design.

    Re-drill the upper control arm bolt holes 1-inch down, and parallel to the originals.

    This is not intended to lower the car, per se, but to raise the pivot location of the upper ball joint.

    Falcons, Mustangs, Comets, etc. all have the awkward motion of tipping the top of the tire on the inside of the curve outward, causing it to lose traction with body roll.

    Relocating the ball joint up causes the inside tire top to tip INWARD in a corner, and bring it in square with the road on cornering.

    Costs one drill bit, if you don't already own the exact size one for the holes.
     
  12. Fortunateson
    Joined: Apr 30, 2012
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    Isn’t the ‘72 Comet the same as the Granada?
     
  13. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
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    gimpyshotrods
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    Maverick.
     

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