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lug nut size problems for old mags

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dads31cp, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. dads31cp
    Joined: Jul 24, 2008
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    I have this set of wheels and the modern lugnuts won't fit the holes. Seems the new lug nuts are 1/2 inch? I had to drill the holes out on a set of slots one time as all I could find were the larger lug nuts. Any ideas other than drill them out? Seems these wheels don't have a lot of meat next to the holes. do I have to machine the new lugs or does anyone have the old style? I was told the thicker shoulder was to help keep them from breaking off. I also don't remember any failing but it makes sense. Also... any input on if this wheel can be repaired or not. It looks like someone has ground out the bad area from the back side. Can they be welded and re-drilled? The set(4) is matched and appears to be 14x6. Maybe I could find a pair of 15". My plan was for my buddies R code 63 1/2 galaxy as a set would look *****en but maybe as fronts on my A roadster.. naw probably too wide.
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  2. LIL.TIMMYUser Name
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    wow! looks pretty bad. i wouldn't want to bet my life on 'em...maybe a good hose-reel for the shop.
     
  3. rustyford40
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    I think you will need a set of wheel washers. I had crager wheels that fit all hubs and had washers that covered the slots.
     
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  4. dads31cp
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    this is the bad wheel. can it be fixed? others are fine and just have smaller holes hence ,my lug nut size problem
     
  5. Chaz
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    I had a set and drilled them out to 11/16 for newer lugs. Here's a link to that tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109391 It worked great. As worn and odd shaped as those holes are, I wouldnt use my method, I'd have a machinist index and drill them. Looks like you have enough meat there to me.
     
  6. carcrazyjohn
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    Get them rewelded and redrilled .and use big washers .
     
  7. wbrw32
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    Looks to me as tho someone ran this wheel with loose lugs....
    good luck in getting it repaired and holes redrilled in center to keep it running true...
     
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  9. Shifty Shifterton
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    Those aren't hogged out by a grinder, those are hogged out by loose lugs wallowing around. Even welding might be iffy, if you were to look at the aluminum around the holes under magnification, it's all work hardened and full of microcracks. So even welding would have to start with boring out the holes to get back to sound metal. If those had been ground out with a grinder, then the metal would be sound. Essentially, the metal was hammered out of the hole.

    Gonna be a lot of time involved getting the surfaces flat and holes concentric. Probably more than the wheel is worth if you were to pay a machine/welding shop for the fix.

    Cool wheel though!
     
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  10. dads31cp
    Joined: Jul 24, 2008
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    the holes (in this wheel only) do appear to have been ground out(die grinder) from the backside. anyone know who made these? The other 3 wheels are good and they may be worth the effort. Anyone have a match to these?
     

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