Technical Making Flathead V8 engine mounts for an unboxed '32 with Model-A front crossmember

Nice job! I went much simpler with “mini “boxing plates I made. But surely would have done something like this had I seen it.
I did have clearance issues with the 8BA front pulley to the crossmember rear lip. Trimmed it, but I still have to raise the motor to change a belt.
It doesn’t appear you have any issues there with this setup.


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You mean box the X legs?

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I think he’s talking about something similar to what the later 30’s ford frames had. No need to do that with a flathead.


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You would like to have a stiff frame for ride and handling. The added legs don't contribute much stiffness because the center of the K member is still very limber. There is nothing new to transfer the load from one frame rail to the other. Something to stiffen up the top of the K member would help.

 

Andy. There's a limit to what is legally allowed. I can't just weld in box sections you know. The X-legs are allowed because they're just bolt in. I find they decrease deflection substantially. This is still a flathead powered 1932 Ford suspended on transverse leaf springs with unsplit bones and a torque tube driveshaft. The frame is supposed to flex a bit.
If I needed more stability I'd replace the K-member altogether with a 1942-48 X-member flowing from front to rear crossmember. However that won't pass inspection in certain states.

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I was thinking of a bolt in plate that attached to the top of the legs and also bolted to the top flamge of the K member in the center and also near the rails. That might pass.
Your design and fabrication skills are very impressive. The engine mounts are surperb!

 

Lovely work, Edward. Repurposing factory parts certainly makes it a very aesthetically pleasing result. When I did my roadster I made relatively light upper and lower bracing frames to simulate the rear part of an x member, effectively extending the K member legs rearwards to the opposite frame rail. They weigh not a lot and add a lot of torsional rigidity to the frame.

Your work is always top notch.

Mart.

 

Mart:

Not to highjack, but could you or would you be so kind to take a pict or two of your set up? I'd love to see that.

Thanks,

Tim

 

Well that wouldn't be visible when assembled. You really think it would tighten up the frame?

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Isn't it hard working on the frame when it's on the ceiling?

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Nah, it’s kinda like working on a “no post” lift.
I did make a set of rods with a swivel welded in center, then bolted these to spreader bar mounts. Hung it from the ceiling with a chain.
It was not only adjustable for height, but I could rotate the frame 360 degrees when prepping/ painting.


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Another great Edward Lloyd modification that comes out looking like it was intended to be that way from the start.

Folks if you look at his avatar you see he lives in Germany and has to deal with the regulations there that greatly limit what mods you can make. That causes him to go to the extra effort to build things that end up not looking modified when he is done and aren't all that evident except to the knowing eye.

 

Nice work, looks original.

 

Edward:

Can you please list the company where you got those legs from again? I know I saw it somewhere, but can't seem to find the name of it. I went to their site to look at them afterward.

Thanks,

Tim

 

Industrial Chassis Inc. They also do the 32 pedal set.

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Thank you. I have the pedals, so I'm go there.