Im looking for some different ideas on how to get 3 pedals in my A. The body is channeled 5 1/2" and is pretty tight in there. I have a set of Ansen swing pedals and Chevy master cylinder but mounting them to the firewall is going to be a no go. Firewall is recessed 4". Trans is a Saginaw bolted to a Lakewood ****tershield. Ive been toying with the idea of putting a hoop under the dash and mounting the pedals to it like some of the old drag cars. Id like to see how some of you made yours to fit. (going to an automatic is not an option at this point)
automatic in a hotrod? what? that aint cool. i think the only car that can get away with that is the purple people eater, and i know beacuse i sat in it.
If you don't use the stock gas Tank,Use a MGB Pedal ***embly.This way you have everything under the cowl top Remove it to fill in the Brake and Clutch Fluids. Look at the pic Michael
Hey, Greezy, are you home this weekend? Today? Come on down and we'll go for a cruise in my new ride! Later, Rusty.
hey greezy, my A coupe is channeled 4" and i got a saginaw 4-speed connected to a gm bell, the pedal ***embly came out of a mazda pickup. i tried to use the mazda hydraulic master cylinder too but it didn't have enough nuts to throw the clutch fork far enough. i ended up going with a $20 swapmeet wilwood unit which doesn't look too trad ( i want to slap some black paint on it and maybe a few pinstripes) but it works, i got a 4-speed in a hotrod with a half-dead small block chev and it gets rubber in all 4 gears no problem) .....do NOT consider an automatic for that thing! i'm not sure what you can do about the mount for the master cylinder with the recessed firewall, i didn't need to recess my firewall because i extended the frame 2-1/2" after the ****** crossmember, so it just pulled the body back on the frame to allow for more engine compartment space. not too many answers for ya here greezy but alot of support for sticking with that 4-speed. good luck man, mike
I suggest building a steel substructure under the dash that bolts to the frame, then use the Wilwood reverse brake/clutch pedal and master cylinder ***embly with the hydraulic slave cylinder. This way everything is in the inside of the car. I'm using the Wilwood set up in my old Willys, except I did'nt have enough room to use the reverse style, so I went with the through-the-firewall design. Glenn
Thanks for the replies. Rusty Itried calling you yesterday dude. Figured you be at Quincy. Ill be in the garage today trying to get this figured out.
I have a 6" channeled A pickup with a 3" recessed firewall! I am using a Tilton, Similar to Willwood or Coleman with the forward facing master cylinders. I have the dash attached to a cross bar that is welded to the A pillars. I welded in a couple legs from the cross bar to the 3" recessed firewall and mounted everything to that. Using a Willwood slave cyl. All the hard lines go over to the cowl and all the way down. They stick out at the bottom edge of the body, conveniently just under the frame. I can probably dig up a couple pictures, send me a PM if youre interested. TZ
greezy,,, MGs(midgets and MGBs) have a hydraulic clutch, and they also have a removeable pedal box. The footwells in MGs are pretty tight, it should be able to be adapted for use with a hydraulic clutch, or maybe even adapeted to use linkage.
Flt-Blk that sounds about like what ive been thinking about doing post some pics if you can. Im trying to stick with the parts I have. So the Ansens should work in a similiar manner, just going to be a pain adding fluid I think.
Dodge Tradesman vans,from the 70's up,used swinging pedals operating a bellcrank,with the master cylinder turned 90 degrees.The master cylinder mounts left to right instead of front to back.One of the street rod advertisers makes one that would be simple to copy.
[ QUOTE ] The footwells in MGs are pretty tight... [/ QUOTE ] They are like football stwadiums compared to a Lotus/Chaterham 7. research the Lotus 7 pedal arangement for ides of what's possible. (Easiest way to drive a L-7 is wearing something the width of ballet slippers or barefoot. I can hit all three pedals at once with my size 12 Nikes!) One thing you need to consider is that you have room under the steering wheel tolift your feet to the brake and clutch pedal without your knee and upper leg getting jambed against the bottom of the steering wheel.
DrJ I drove a Birken Super 7 clone and it was a tight fit for meand I'm not a big guy. They were using almost and Identical pedal cluster to the Tilton. That's where I got the idea for mine. My pic's of the pedals are at work, I will post some monday. As for access to fill the master cyl., I have Dzus fastners holding the gas tank top on, I can remove it for access to everything under the dash. Very handy for setting up the pedals and wiring. TZ
What about flippin the pedal ***embly upside down and redrillin the bolt patt for the master cyl? That way the pedals come up through the floor.I have the same pedal *** an thought about doin that.
DrJ and flt-blk,the pedal ***embly's you are talking about are probably out of a Ford Anglia. ( not the one that was used a lot for G***ers, but the one that came after that) They are a nice compact aluminium casting and you can bolt two Girling masters to them, one clutch one brake, or two brake with a balance bar, and a seperate one cut in half for the clutch.They were used for almost everything in England, even in a lot of Formula 1 cars. Originals are probably long gone, but the are being reproduced in England.
Have you thought about using a cable ? I used a set of pedals out of my 38 buick with a cable. I still have to cut the pedals down But this seams to work good. Here is a pic. good luck. Jerry
And the bottom side. Don't mind the faield attempt at a parking brake, and the pedals had not been adjusted yet at this point. TZ
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